The Republican candidates are debating tonight on FOX News.
They all sound terrific.
Except Ron Paul--- What the heck is he still doing on the stage?
He just said- "The neocons hijacked the nation???"
Governor Mike Huckabee just blasted him by the way.
The Republicans need to get him out of there. He does nothing but make a clown of himself.
Get him out of there!
The rest of the candidates look and sound terrific.
Stephen Green at Pajamas Media is liveblogging the debate.
Glenn Reynolds has a roundup.
Michelle Malkin has running updates.
TigerHawk is liveblogging.
Loved Rudy Giuliani's answer on Gitmo--- "Where are we going to release these dangerous prisoners? LA-NYC? No one wants them."
The powerful ads by Freedoms Watch are playing during the commercials.
This one was terrific:
Vicki Strong lost her son Marine Sgt. Jesse Strong, in Iraq fighting for our freedom. Vicki believes Victory is America's only choice.
Victory Caucus is still asking for signatures to support the troops.
Ron Paul is spewing more nuttiness- saying Iran is not a threat.
What is he talking about?
The FOX News audience members liked John McCain.
Here's a nice clip...
Giuliani on McCain on YouTube.
Ron Paul wins the FOX News post debate poll!
Which reconfirms that these call-in polls can never be trusted.
UPDATE: Another report says McCain and Huckabee shine at debate.
This is an overt hitpiece. There is no way to win a war on terror. The longer we stay in Iraq the more unstable the region will be.
ReplyDeleteDaniel- The Iraqis want us to stay--- and build permanent US bases.
ReplyDelete"The powerful ads by Freedoms Watch are playing during the commercials.
ReplyDeleteThis one was terrific:"
Ummm, isn't this ad just further confusing the issue? There wasn't terrorism coming out of Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. How many hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died? How many of those were terrorists?
anonymous, how many Iraqis have been killed by their fellow Muslims? That seems to be something you anti-war bunch never want to address.
ReplyDeleteHow long do you think that radical Islam has been preparing for this war and are you so stupid as to not realize that this war is not just against the U.S., it is against all infidels, no matter then location?
Let me give you a little hint since you seem to be a bit short on history:
The Islamic hoards had marched across Europe conquering Turkey, Spain and had entered Austria and were standing at the gates of Vienna. They were defeated there. The day of the Islamic defeat was in 1683 on September 11. That date ring a bell with you?
If you honestly think that if American leaves the entire Arabian peninsula that the radical jihadis will stop their attacks against us, I suggest you seek medical treatment for your mental disorder.
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just a sample
excerpts:
[The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs.]
[This is apparently the Times' November surprise, but it's a surprising one indeed. The Times has just authenticated the entire collection of memos, some of which give very detailed accounts of Iraqi ties to terrorist organizations. Just this past Monday, I posted a memo which showed that the Saddam regime actively coordinated with Palestinian terrorists in the PFLP as well as Hamas and Islamic Jihad. On September 20th, I reposted a translation of an IIS memo written four days after 9/11 that worried the US would discover Iraq's ties to Osama bin Laden.]
there's way too much to catch you up on.. please do some research before making such ignorant statements.
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Ron Paul is consistent and the only candidate that is serious about reducing the Federal footprint in our lives. Yes, we may disagree on a lot of things but he is a candidate you know isn't being plagued by special interest. Rather than foolishly write him off, challenge his assertions and challenge the other candidates to realize why he appeals to so many- not because of his war stance but because we're all sick and tired of the government running our lives. All of us except the guys in Washington...
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oh what the heck, another sample:
excerpt:
[Saddam Hussein's Regime's Methods of Torture The following methods of torture have all been reported to international human rights groups, such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, by the victims of torture or their families.
Eye gouging
Amnesty International reported the case of a Kurdish businessman in Baghdad who was executed in 1997. When his family retrieved his body, the eyes had been gouged out and the empty eye sockets stuffed with paper.
Piercing of hands with electric drill
A common method of torture for political detainees. Amnesty International reported one victim who then had acid poured into his open wounds.
Suspension from the ceiling
Victims are blindfolded, stripped and suspended for hours by their wrists, often with their hands tied behind their backs. This causes dislocation of shoulders and tearing of muscles and ligaments.
Electric shock
A common torture method. Shocks are applied to various parts of the body, including the genitals, ears, tongue and fingers.
Sexual abuse
Victims, particularly women, have been raped and sexually abused, including reports of broken bottles being forced into the victim's anus.
"Falaqa"
Victims are forced to lie face down and are then beaten on the soles of their feet with a cable, often losing consciousness.
Other physical torture
Extinguishing cigarettes on various parts of the body, extraction of fingernails and toenails and beatings with canes, whips, hose pipes and metal rods are common.
Mock executions
Victims are told that they are to be executed by firing squad and a mock execution is staged. Victims are hooded and brought before a firing squad, who then fire blank rounds.
Acid baths
David Scheffer, US Ambassador - at - Large for War Crimes, reported that photographic evidence showed that Iraq had used acid baths during the invasion of Kuwait. Victims were hung by their wrists and gradually lowered into the acid.]
[Costs to Fellow Muslims
[The Iran-Iraq war (1980-198 resulted in an estimated 1 million Muslim casualties, dead and wounded. Iranian casualties were estimated at between 450,000 and 730,000. Iraqi casualties were estimated at between 150,000 and 340,000.
During the 1988 Anfal campaign in Iraqi Kurdistan, Iraqi troops were responsible for the death or disappearance of up to 100,000 Muslim Kurds.
On March 16 1988, Iraqi troops killed up to 5,000 and injured some 10,000 Muslim Kurds in a single day in a chemical weapon attack on the town of Halabja in northern Iraq.
The 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait led to the death of some 1,000 Kuwaiti Muslim nationals.
605 prisoners of war remain unaccounted for since 1991, including nationals of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, India, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Egypt, Bahrain, and Oman.
Between 3 and 4 million Muslim Iraqis have abandoned their homes and sought refuge outside Iraq.
Many hundreds of thousands of Iraq's Muslims have been displaced internally. Estimates of 900,000 may be conservative. In the north, towns and villages were systematically destroyed by the regime during the war with Iran.
Further south, non-Arabs in the region of Kirkuk have been relocated to other parts of Iraq and Arabs induced to occupy their homes and lands.
And in the south, between 300,000 and 500,000 Muslim citizens have been forced from their traditional homes in Iraq's marshlands.
Thousands of Muslims have been arbitrarily arrested, ill-treated, tortured and executed in Iraq in recent years because of their suspected opposition political activities, or because they are relatives of people sought by the authorities.
Sources: US Committee for Refugees Report 2002
Human Rights Watch Country Report
International Alliance for Justice News Service 12/9/2002
Amnesty International Report – Victims of Systematic Repression British Government's own sources]
a little something extra..
**GRAPHIC VIDEO MATERIAL**
again.. just a sample.. also excludes
mass graves and other atrocities.. :(
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I am at a Motel 6 in Billings, Montana and therfore held hostage by the Communist News Network!?!?!?!? What happened?
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Ron Paul has pointed out that this war should have been declared by congress, which is the only lawful way to go to war, authorized by the constitution. Now, there were other candidates who finally began using Paul's language about their oath to uphold the constitution, witch Paul has reminded us all of repeatedly. Why didn't Chris Wallace bring that up or question the other candidates about that fact rather than erroneously trying to accuse Paul of taking our marching orders from Al-Qaida? Paul responded perfectly, "NO" he said " We should take our marching orders from the constitution"! Did we declare it constitutionally? Please, other candidates, answer this. Ron Paul is steering the debates. Huck, we should stand together as one nation, remember 70% of the American people want a change. More troops gave to Ron Paul's campaign than any other candidate. Next time lets declare the war the way we are supposed to and get a mandate from the people. Lets all stand together as Americans, no matter what your party, or which candidate you are, lets all stand for the
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Anon@10:28, What the hell did Hillary vote on that she won't change her position on? What would O'Bama not vote for if he had been in office during 9/11? Research is necessary for this subject.
ReplyDeleteBTW, Ron Paul is not a candidate that I want to see visiting the White House let alone living there. I would vote for Hillary first.
Yes what was the 9-11 Truther and patent fool Ron Paul still on stage for? Comic relief?
ReplyDeleteThen there is that nanny state socialist Huckabee which we need like the Titanic needed more ice...
Well I'm still stuck with the person that is considered a single issue candidate, Tom Tancredo even with his flaws ...
Yet American Thinker notes that Tom Tancredo's excellent suggestion regarding hurricane relief funds to Louisiana...
Considering what has happened so far in that regards I'm guessing more people wished they had followed Tancredo's suggestions...
I was gonna warn you that any topic about Ron Paul brings out his loony supporters, and to expect a deluge of comments. . .but no need now, eh?
ReplyDeleteRon Paul thinks nothing bad happened after we left Vietnam. He's said so himself. That's either willful ignorance, or the dismissal of over a million southeast Asian lives as worthless. No wonder David Duke has endorsed the guy.
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ReplyDeleteFYI.. CONGRESS MOST CERTAINLY
DID AUTHORIZE THE WAR IN IRAQ
Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of
United States Armed Forces Against Iraq
excerpt:
[SEC. 1. SHORT TITLE.
This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq".]
back up:
Public Law 107–243; 107th Congress
excerpts:
[Joint Resolution
To authorize the use of United
States Armed Forces against Iraq.]
[SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This joint resolution may be cited as the ‘‘Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002’’.]
HELLO??
well, i suppose repeating a lie over & over worked / works so well for the Dems, Ron figures what's he got to lose, he's already out on a conspiracy theory limb, maybe he thinks he can lure a few MoveON numbnuts to vote for him.. just sayin'..
ps: there's such little distiction between "DECLARING WAR" & "AUTHOIRIZING WAR" to be made.. it's a MOOT point..
pertinent excerpt:
[After World War II, Congress voluntarily limited its use of the power to declare war to issuing authorizations of force.]
nuff said..
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ReplyDeleteps: Anonymous @ 10:28 PM
fyi re:
"Ron Paul has pointed out that this war should have been declared by congress, which is the only lawful way to go to war, authorized by the constitution."
For the United States, Article One, Section Eight of the Constitution says "Congress shall have the power to ... declare War," however, that passage provides no specific format for what form legislation text must have to be considered a "Declaration of War" nor does the Constitution itself use this term.
again, just sayin'..
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I've come to the conclusion that America has a lot of big-mouthed know-nothings living there; unfortunately, I don't really think these know-nothings even realize it. Mind you, the world is full of big-mouthed know-nothings.
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ReplyDeletesorry i just have to laugh at the "special interests" misnomer.. just look at how the Democrats have been campaigning re: shrinking goverment in public vs the ever growing Democrat expansion of government.. ie: Hillary Care or Edwards Mandate Care, not to mention tax hikes all across the board (Dem logic: the less of our money we hold onto, the more we have to depend on the government for a hand out).. or illegal aliens as well as felons being afforded a vote (nullifying the meaning of "citizenship".. hey, there's a good reason "sanctuary cities" have been established in Blue States)..
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Gee Gateway, you look like a strapping lad. If Ron's a jerk, you can show him by going to your recruiter and signing up. I mean, if it's worth staying there forever, you won't mind.
ReplyDeleteOne diff between Ron and the chickenhawks on stage is Ron served.
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ReplyDeleteA veteran @ 8:26 PM
well, aren't you the brave one.. coming from a family with a long list of veterans (dead, living & serving).. i've yet to hear one of them, nor their vet friends, speak like that to anyone.. as a matter of fact, that's more definable as being a standard moonbat attack..
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bg said
ReplyDelete"well, aren't you the brave one.. coming from a family with a long list of veterans (dead, living & serving).. i've yet to hear one of them, nor their vet friends, speak like that to anyone.. as a matter of fact, that's more definable as being a standard moonbat attack.."
Don't claim to be brave. You guys are the ones with the big talk. Go and fight if you think the game is worth it. Otherwise, you are a chickenhawk.
Moonbat definition-ad hominem used when no rational argument is possible.