It Was a Question of Wright and Wrong All Along
It never was a question of race as much as it was a question of right and wrong.
For Barack Obama to stuff that filth from his pastor down our throats and make it "our problem" was outrageous.
Jeff Jacoby at The Boston Globe nailed it:
I HAVE known my rabbi for more than 20 years. The synagogue he serves as spiritual leader is one I have attended for a quarter-century. He officiated at my wedding and was present for the circumcision of each of my sons. Over the years, I have sought his advice on matters private and public, religious and secular. I have heard him speak from the pulpit more times than I can remember.Amen.
My relationship with my rabbi, in other words, is similar in many respects to Barack Obama's relationship with his longtime pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright. But if my rabbi began delivering sermons as toxic, hate-filled, and anti-American as the diatribes Wright has preached at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ, I wouldn't hesitate to demand that he be dismissed.
Were my rabbi to gloat that America got its just desserts on 9/11, or to claim that the US government invented AIDS as an instrument of genocide, or to urge his congregants to sing "God Damn America" instead of "God Bless America," I would know about it straightaway, even if I hadn't actually been in the sanctuary when he spoke. The news would spread rapidly through the congregation, and in short order one of two things would happen: Either the rabbi would be gone, or I and scores of others would walk out, unwilling to remain in a house of worship that tolerated such poisonous teachings.
posted by Gateway Pundit at 3/22/2008 09:57:00 PM
16 Comments:
Amen, also.
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no matter their color or denomination, same goes for every church goer i know of (including those who go to Synagogue et al)!!
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Obama's speech amounted to little more than blaming hearers for having ears.
Black racists will likely argue that Jeff Jacoby's rabbi is so cheerful because the Jews who made up .7% of the US population in the 1800s, owned 90% of all slaves in the US. (that tidbit from faraskum, I believe).
The question was, what could Obama say to move past this crisis? My answer is nothing. How do you explain your ability to sit in a pew and listen to racist, anti-American rants and not lift up your backside and remove it from the church. You can't do it because it must have sounded reasonable and acceptable to him.
I don't need him to renounce his church. I don't need him to renounce his pastor. I just can't vote for him knowing that this was not a problem for him, UNTIL we found out.
I'm not mad. I'm disappointed.
Every Shabbos many Synagogues pray not only for Israel, but for America. There is a prayer read for the country and it's leaders, and a seperate one for the troops. There isn't any I know of, and wouldn't set foot in if I did, that say anything even remotely resembling the hatefull racist garbage spewed by Obama's "mentor."
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Otter @ 6:16 AM..
1) Muhammedens gave birth to slavery..
2) Slavery was color-blind..
3) Free African-Americans owned / traded slaves..
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So have white Christians completely abandoned the church of Rod Parsley, the World Harvest Church? Have white Christians completely ignored Pat Robertson and John Hagee? Are these men on the outskirts of white Christian evangelical belief?
If they were, ask yourself why McCain actively sought their endorsement?
Of course, these bigots, these Anti-American bastards are still well w/in the mainstream of evangelical faith.
What's the difference? Why aren't you criticizing all those evangelicals who still support those anti-American preachers?
Hypocrisy?
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Anonymous @ 5:45 PM..
you must be about the 10th Anon asking the same "one track; off the track" questions that have been answered just as many times.. guess i'm going to have to prepare a standard FAQ response file..
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I've kind of lurked around here some and all I've seen are the same non-answers of "Well, but, 20 years... 20 years!!!"
That's not an answer. That's what idiots say when they have no answer.
Truth is: MCCAIN SOUGHT THE ENDORSEMENT OF SOMEONE WHO HAS SAID THAT GOD IS DAMNING AMERICA!!!
What the hell is so hard to understand about how they are EXACTLY the same, except one person is white and the other is black?
Life would be so much easier if you all just admit your racism!
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McCain / Parsley
[According to the campaign, McCain met Parsley for the first time three weeks ago, when the pastor served as an introductory speaker at a February 26 rally in Cincinnati.
McCain praised most of the leaders in attendance [including Parsley], saying of Parsley: “I am very honored today to have one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide…(i inserted [including Parsley] simply because it should state including Parsley, but then it couldn't be twisted by the MSM if they wrote it in context could it..]
[allegations that controversial Ohio pastor, Rev. Rod Parsley, serves as a “spiritual guide”]
what allegations?? McCain is correct.. Parsley is considered a "spiritual quide" by his flock (of which McCain is not a member of)..
bottom line:
Parsley is NOT McCain's "spiritual guide".. he had just met the man for the first time the night he graciously thanked the speakers (Parsley being one).. unless Parsley stated any of those things that night in McCain's presence, there is no way in hades they have any reflection on McCain..
now if McCain had known Parsley for over 20 years, etc.. and considered him a member of his family per se, or he said those things the first time he met him.. that would be a totally different kettle of fish, but it's not reality..
HT : Astute Bloggers
McCain / Hagee
excerpts:
[These points are extremely important and mark a completely different relationship between the hatemonger Wright and Barack Obama and McCain and Hagee. It shows that Obama had many decades of intimacy with Rev. Wright proving that Wright's hate speech could not possibly have bothered Barack very much at all, much less have come as any surprise. While John McCain had only just met John Hagee proving that his history of anti-Catholic statements is not something that McCain could have had long and intimate contact with.]
[But there is absolutely no way to equate McCain's acceptance of the anti-Catholic Hagee's support with that of Obama's acceptance of the racist Wright's. Obama has no excuse to have only suddenly distanced himself form this hate filled, ranter whom he has called his "spiritual mentor." For decades Obama has known of, and sat in a congregation listening to, the wild-eyed rants by this man. Barack has accepted him as part of his family closely associated with his wife and children. Barack Hussein Obama has been very close with Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. for 20 some years. On the other hand, John McCain has only just met John Hagee. You just cannot equate the two.]
oh btw .. i can link to Muslims who have said much worse things than the Rev. Parsley.. at least there's an assemblance of truth to his words that can be backed up by Muslims themselves vs Rev. Wrights echoes of a man consumed by hatred of America, whites & evidently i dare say God himself noting his profound "God complex"..
McCain rejects anti-Catholic views
pertinent excerpts:
[Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Friday repudiated any views of a prominent televangelist who endorsed him last month "if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics."]
[On Friday, McCain took a stronger stance on Hagee's views in an interview with The Associated Press.
"We've had a dignified campaign, and I repudiate any comments that are made, including Pastor Hagee's, if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics," McCain said.
"I sent two of my children to Catholic school. I categorically reject and repudiate any statement that was made that was anti-Catholic, both in intent and nature. I categorically reject it, and I repudiate it," McCain said.
"And we can't have that in this campaign," McCain said. "We're trying to unite the country. We're uniting the country, not dividing it."]
the end..
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Earth to Analmouth @ 7:35 PM..
[Life would be so much easier if
you all just admit your racism!]
you're an impudent arse.. i happen to be the proud grandmother of 2 precious BIRACIAL grandchildren (as well as 5 white & 2 white deceased).. as well as the proud mil of 2 BLACK son in laws (1 being the father of the 2)..
it's very easy to be an idiot at the keyboard, not to mention Anonymous, but something tells me you wouldn't dare say that to my face in the presence of either one of them..
so just grow up already..
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btw.. anyone who says Hagee or Parsley, etc G-D DAMNED AMERICA.. is taking what they said, how they said it, totally out of context..
i cannot find an proof (via transcripts &/or videos) that any of them outright stated..
G-D DAMN AMERICA!! in the same manner or context as Wright repeatedly stated, nay, repeatedly shouted it (not to mention i front of an audience / parishoners)..
not that i agree with any of the religious nutjobs.. but what it boils down to is the desperate twisting, convaluting & interjecting of ones own words into what literally came out of their mouths vs what literally came out of Wright's mouth..
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before some infantile analmouth
slams me for any misspells/etc..
pardon typo's.. i know i made a
few, so i can't type, sue me..
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Excuse me, BG, but saying God punishes America for tolerating homosexuality, feminism, abortions, etc. IS NO DIFFERENT than saying God damn America for killing innocent people and acting like God.
If there is a difference, please explain it to me, b/c God punishing America for sins is EXACTLY THE SAME as God damning America for sins.
Does your whole argument hinge upon the use of "punish" vs. the word "damn"? If that's the case, dear, then your argument is weaker than I first thought.
And you would then be finding ways to excuse the anti-American white preachers, in a way that you are not excusing the anti-American black preacher.
Excuse the white preacher but not excuse the black preacher?
Methinks that sounds a whole lot like racism, unless you have a different way of justifying the double standard of how you are reacting to the different preachers.
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Anon..
read this (in context if you can)..
even if Hagee or Parsley (et al) literally stated "God is damning America"..
it does not literally equate to Wright's (et al) emphatic repetition of God Damn America!!
hope you get it, because i have to run.. i'm already late for my 3rd grade lit lesson & don't have the time to explain what intent means..
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