Desmond Tutu believes that Wright says the things that all black Americans want to say...
Really?
The Chicago Tribune and LGF Quick Links reported:
"You are a crazy country," Tutu, 76, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1984, said in an interview with the Tribune. "You're a country that has I think some of the most generous people I've ever come across in the world."Ironically, Archbishop Tutu spoke about this racist glass ceiling while receiving the "Oprah Winfrey" Lincoln Leadership Prize.
But he chided Americans for getting "very, very upset" with the pastor of Sen. Barack Obama, noting that Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. "may have said more crudely what, actually, almost every African-American would have wanted to say. I mean that is how they feel in your country, that race ... is a very, very real issue."
"And I think on the whole you keep trying to pretend it isn't," he added, noting the issue will haunt Americans until there is a way to talk honestly about race, such as holding a reconciliation forum.
Tutu, who headed South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission probing human-rights abuses under apartheid, was here to receive the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library Foundation's Lincoln Leadership Prize, presented by Oprah Winfrey.
Unlike in South Africa's apartheid era, he said, where blacks were treated as "nothing," in America, "You say to them, 'You're equal, and the sky's the limit.' And they keep bumping their heads against this thing that's stopping them from reaching out to the stars."
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ReplyDeleteSomebody needs to ask the good Bishop whether he believes that the US invented HIV for the purpose of killing people of color.
ReplyDeleteActually, somebody needs to make a nice, long checklist of Rev. Wright's lies, and then go through it, and ask for the basis of his beliefs.
Valerie
Yeah, that ceiling is just a killer here. Ask Condi Rice, Colin Powell, and some little-known guy running for President. You know, that Obama guy.
ReplyDeletePromoting the hate-mongering "Pastor of Disaster" is a creative approach to racial reconciliation.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you disagree with the good Bishop, his goons will tie you up, strap a tire around your neck--and light it on fire.
"Necklacing" was a very persuasive technique in South Africa.
It's absurd not to recognize that his point, at its core, is valid. His point was not that Reverend Wright was correct in his ridiculous assertions. Instead, Bishop Tutu was saying that African Americans, who feel that they are the victims of ongoing inequality, listen to and believe many of the things Wright says.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who looks at poverty, imprisonment, or health statistics has to accept that inequality exists. "That Obama guy" just lost West Virginia because he's black. If the broader American society thinks that equal legal rights is enough to achieve real equality, and if we are actually ready to relegate Black anger and frustration to the realm of fringe characters like Rev. Wright, then we are a silly country indeed.
"Anyone who looks at poverty, imprisonment, or health statistics has to accept that inequality exists. "That Obama guy" just lost West Virginia because he's black. If the broader American society thinks that equal legal rights is enough to achieve real equality, and if we are actually ready to relegate Black anger and frustration to the realm of fringe characters like Rev. Wright, then we are a silly country indeed."
ReplyDeleteBut the question is -- is the inequality imposed on us by society, or primarily the natural result of poor choices (whether parental or self), poor valuation of education and our overall failure to embrace the incredible opportunities offered?
I love Bill Cosby's demand that we stand up and just accept responsibility to change our own lives!
"But the question is -- is the inequality imposed on us by society, or primarily the natural result of poor choices (whether parental or self), poor valuation of education and our overall failure to embrace the incredible opportunities offered?"
ReplyDeleteI know that you meant it as rhetorical, but I'll answer that question. The inequality in the US to which Bishop Tutu refers is just the result of the choices that we and our families make.
Now maybe Tutu should be addressing the inequality in neighboring Zimbabwe and what South Africa is doing to prop up its evil dictator Mugabe.
Bingo, Meryl Yourish, exactly! I think that African Americans are not so much bumping their heads as they are finding their ankles tied to the victim mentality. I've heard of black students with straight A's who don't talk about it because that would be "acting white" and they would face reprisals from the other black kids. Until that sort of thing comes to an end, you won't see an end to "racism."
ReplyDeleteGeesh...
ReplyDeleteJosh,
How did Obama win North Carolina? From non-racist 90% blacks? You see how easy this is to smear each other? Whereas only 7% voted for Hillary because she was white.
It appears racist are all colors, correct? By your mentality?
Tutu has become a sleaze artist like Sharpton and the rest. He does nothing for the people of Zimbabwi. He did nothing for the 2.5 million dead in Sudan. Millions of Africans have died and are dying due to Black African leadership and he does nothing but complain to American whites?
The generosity he talks about? That is white America pooring its heart out daily, yearly to provide billions in food, water, medicine, AIDS help to Africa. But it does not stop there. White America has poored out billions to black Americans in welfare, education, food stamps, housing, clothing, medical care.
Take the big fat cedar log out of your own eye Mr. Tutu. Go back to Africa and preach your contempt to the nations of Africa and preach as the minister you're supposed to be against tyrants and corruption in Africa.
He does nothing for blacks being oppressed, murdered, tortured in African nations led by blacks. He once did good work against aparthied. Good, now stand up to tyrants of all colors in Africa.
Once you clean up your own frontyard, come back and complain again in America. The nation that has given more than any other country on earth to black people in Africa.
Meryl,
ReplyDeleteExcellent point. Michael Steele is Republican National Chair. Lynn Swan ran for Governor of Pennsylvania. To bad he didn't win. PA might be better today.
There should be a study of American blacks against African blacks. I wonder how that would work out? In terms of personal income, education, health, society?
It appears someone is taking a small step in doing so. 1 million blacks with PhDs, MDs, etc?
Here is an article from Lawrence Graham at BlackNews. He probably supports Obama. But the artilce makes a good point. Blacks are thriving in society today.
"Don't expect to see rowdy basketball players or, rap stars who use the N-word on this list," says Graham, a graduate of Princeton and Harvard Law School. "The Our Kind of People 800 Register will focus on 'the talented tenth'---the kind of blacks that sociologist W.E.B. DuBois discussed 100 years ago---blacks with superior backgrounds: doctors, bankers, lawyers, educators and generous socialites." Graham notes more than one million black Americans now have MBAs, PhDs, MDs and law degrees. "This is the social elite," says Graham, "and they've always stood above the rest. This directory separates the wheat from the chaff. It's my way of fighting the negative black images from insulting new TV shows like BET's 'Hot Ghetto Mess--We Gotta Do Better' and 'Flavor of Love'. We are the 'good in' black America taking on the worst."
http://www.blacknews.com/pr/ourkindofpeople101.html
I forgot to mention Merill Lynch, Time Warner, and Americn Express have black CEOs. Three of the top companies in America and in the last case, the world.
ReplyDeleteI think if there is a study done, hyphenated African-Americans are probably far better off than any African nation and probably European. It would be very interesting to see a study done.
And to Kafir and Anony.
re: choice.
Yep! We live or die, rich or poor, whine or praise, go down or rise up by our choices in life. There are no true ceilings in America anymore to anyone that is determine to move up in life.
But pandering politicians will give away America's soul to get elected. Handouts are their poison for divisive rhetoric. And it is not just color based.
Bill Cosby; another great black American is right. Stop whining, stop blaming others for your choices in life. Start working and stop looking back. All things are possible to them that persevere.
"Instead, Bishop Tutu was saying that African Americans, who feel that they are the victims of ongoing inequality, listen to and believe many of the things Wright says"...
ReplyDeleteSo what are you saying Josh, blacks are delusional?
I mean where is this alledged, "ongoing inequality" happening at?
"Anyone who looks at poverty, imprisonment, or health statistics has to accept that inequality exists"....
Nonsense Josh, it exists because people are responsible for their life choices...
Stupid life choices leads to less than optimal results...
"If the broader American society thinks that equal legal rights is enough to achieve real equality, and if we are actually ready to relegate Black anger and frustration to the realm of fringe characters like Rev. Wright, then we are a silly country indeed"...
If anyone believes in that sort of drivel then the word, "silly" doesn't begin to describe that person...
"Black Anger" should be directed where it will do the most good, towards the black communities where the citizens have a responsibility to themselves...
Its NOT someone else's job or responsibility (though the soicalist libtard would have you believe different) to make sure that black lives are lived without angst...
One would've thought that hurricane Katrina showed that...
All to often over the last twenty or thirty years it has somehow become fashionable to NOT point out that the victim is the perpetrator of his/her own supposed victimization...
Its wonderful when racist liberals tell us what they believe. Racist blacks in America is understandable and its all you crackers fault! LOL
ReplyDeleteGetting girlfriend pregnant and then abandoning them, dropping out of school, barely scrapping by in school, turning to crime and drug dealing/using. All this and they want equal outcomes. Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!
Those two belong together a pair of sinister evil persons the unknown members of the LEGION OF DOOM
ReplyDeleteNOTE: Bill Cosby never said, in calling for personal responsibility, that government or the larger society does not bare some responsibility too! He merely believes that there's no point in adding to one's own troubles and those of one's family, friends and community.
ReplyDeleteAlso, please remember that many of those soldiers graves in Iraq have African Americans, Latinos and other non-whites in them!! PLEASE!!