Thursday, June 19, 2008

The Obama-Ayers Connection: The Big Lie

In the mail...

Hi Jim,
I'm having a problem with something and I'd like you take on it being your someone I consider a "national" blogger meaning your widely read and linked to. The connection between Obama and Ayers in relation to the Annenberg Challenge has not been reported in the MSM at all.It's only been on a few blogs . I can't believe it's stayed under the radar this long. Are conservative pundits and the RNC keeping this under wraps until a latter date or is this not as big a story as I believe it to be..I've sent out an email to family and friends on this which I'm pasting below..Am I wrong that this is a big story that will sink Obama?..I'm really interested in your take on this.
Thanx in advance,
Bruce

THE OBAMA-AYRES CONNECTION:THE BIG LIE

How many times does Barack Obama have to lie before people start realizing that this guy isn't the man that he ,or the press, claims to be. How many lies does he have to tell before someone , somewhere calls him on it? I therefore present to you what I consider to be a major lie in regards to his relationship with William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist from the '60s. In a debate on ABC he was asked about this and his response was :

George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about.
This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.
So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, is somehow — somehow their ideas could be attributed to me — I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.

First a little reminder of who William Ayers is. In the late '60's he was a founder of the radical group Weathermen who set over 20 bombs including one that went off in the Pentagon. No one was hurt but many important computers were destroyed. He and his wife and fellow member, Berardine Dohrn, were never charged in the bombings due to government misconduct. However Dohrn did recieve probation for aggravated battery and bail jumping. She also served a year for refusing to testify against another member of the Weatherman who was charged in an armed robbery. In an interview with the New York Times he was quoted as saying ''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' The interview appeared on September 11, 2001. Yes,really. And here he is on the posing on the cover of a local Chicago magazine ..standing on the American flag:

Kinda makes you all feel warm and fuzzy doesn't it?

Now back to what Obama said. His statement is entirely misleading. Barack Obama would have you believe that he and Ayers were simply neighborhood acquaintances. The Politico reported that Barack Obama went to the home of Ayers in 1995:

I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers’ house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress,” said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the informal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. “[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor.”

Obama and Palmer “were both there,” he said.
Indeed, the relationship between Obama and Ayers runs deeper. In 1993 Philanthropist Walter H. Annenberg pledged 500 million dollars to a school reform initiative called the Annenberg Challenge . This is where William Ayers comes in:

When three of Chicago's most prominent education reform leaders met for lunch at a Thai restaurant six years ago to discuss the just-announced $500 million Annenberg Challenge, their main goal was to figure out how to ensure that any Annenberg money awarded to Chicago "didn't go down the drain," said William Ayers, a professor of education at the University of Illinois in Chicago. Ayers, who was at that lunch table in late 1993, helped write the successful Chicago grant application.
So in 1995 The Chicago Annenberg Challenge Fund was created. They received 49.2 million dollars. Ayers and his two colleagues went on the form a "working group" that soon comprised over 70 members. But Ayers was a main figure in this working group as he himself says on his website:

Co-Founder and Co-Chair, Chicago School Reform Collaborative (The Annenberg Challenge), 1995-2000.
Want to guess who the working group, which morphed into the Chicago School Reform Collaborative , picked to lead the the fund? That's right..Barack Obama was tapped to be the first Chairman of the Board of the newly created Chicago Annenberg Challenge fund. The working group went on to form the CSRC which acted as amongst other things a consultant to the fund. Now , does Obama really expect us to believe that while serving as the chairman of the board of the CACF he had no contact with William Ayers? And what exactly did Ayers see in Obama to have selected him for this important role? Look at it this way..would Ayers have picked someone who holds MY views..or someone who hold views closer to his own?.If you know anything about these far-left radicals it's that they have very little tolerance for people who don't think like them. For example in 2006 Ayers traveled to Caracas, Venezuela to give a speech on..you guessed it..education. here's some choice excerpts:

President Hugo Chavez, Vice-President Vicente Rangel, Ministers Moncada and Isturiz, invited guests,comrades. I’m honored and humbled to be here with you this morning. I bring greetings and support from your brothers and sisters throughout Northamerica. Welcome to the World Education Forum! Amamos la revolucion Bolivariana!

I walked out of jail and into my first teaching position—and from that day until this I’ve thought of myself as a teacher, but I’ve also understood teaching as a project intimately connected with social justice. After all, the fundamental message of the teacher is this: you can change your life—whoever you are, wherever you’ve been, whatever you’ve done, another world is possible. As students and teachers begin to see themselves as linked to one another, as tied to history and capable of collective action, the fundamental message of teaching shifts slightly, and becomes broader, more generous: we must change ourselves as we come together to change the world. Teaching invites transformations, it urges revolutions small and large. La educacion es revolucion!

Totalitarianism demands obedience and conformity, hierarchy, command and control. Royalty requires allegiance. Capitalism promotes racism and militarism – turning people into consumers, not citizens. Participatory democracy, by contrast, requires free people coming together voluntarily as equals who are capable of both self-realization and, at the same time, full participation in a shared political and economic life.

Despite being under constant attack from within and from abroad, the Bolivarian revolution has made astonishing strides in a brief period: from the Mission Simoncito to the Mission Robinson to the Mission Ribas to the Mission Sucre, to the Bolivarian schools and the UBV, Venezuelans have shown the world that with full participation, full inclusion, and popular empowerment, the failings of capitalist schooling can be resisted and overcome. Venezuela is a beacon to the world in its accomplishment of eliminating illiteracy in record time, and engaging virtually the entire population in the ongoing project of education.

Viva Mission Sucre!
Viva Presidente Chavez!
Viva La Revolucion Bolivariana!
Hasta La Victoria Siempre!
Is it not a legitimate question to ask whether the man who wants to be the next President of the United States shares these views?..Or is this simply the William Ayers that Obama didn't know..like the Rev. Wright that he didn't know..or the Tony Rezko that Obama didn't know? I'm sure he'll have some excuse that his simpleton supporters will take on face value- But, not me!

UPDATE: Global Labor and Global Economy has more on the Obama-Ayers connection.
And, more here.

UPDATE 2: Power Line has more history on the Obama-Ayers connections.

51 comments:

  1. If you don't mind . . . I'm going to re-post this at my own website (http://jdlong.blogspot.com).

    Please forward my blog address to your friend for his mailing list as well. As my gradfather used to say, "It's never too early to shoot a wounded duck."

    ~~JD~~

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  2. I love this. Bush and the Republicans are given a free pass for associating with all manner of criminals, albeit ones who are enjoy wealth and privilege and therefore have been endowed with legitimacy. Think the entire house of Saud and the Enron crowd. The hypocrisy here is just laughable. Because Ayers is black and once was once, a long time ago, a subversive, Obama gets tarred.

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  3. Anonymous6:12 AM

    not that it matters, esp as evidence of every criticism of Obama as his friends, implied to be racist....but Ayers isn't black.

    His father was an energy, dirty style, Chicago power broker...former chair,Con Ed...this Obama nomination was formed by a coalition of the nuclear industry plus Chicago hungry politicians with a hunger to find a credible black candidate ...Watch Exelon Corp at work

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  4. Anonymous6:26 AM

    the milky way,

    Another moronic dimwitted twit.

    Every single President deals with the Middle East. You can thank the Democrats for forcing our companies to drill abroad for the last 30 years as it is your Democrat looney lefist friends who prevent drilling by Americans, for Americans on American soil.

    It is the Democrats that force us to send trillions to the Middle East. It is the Democrats that keep trillions from being spent at home. It is the Democrats that refuse jobs to Americans.

    Clinton received 10 million from Saudi Kings for his library. Not to mention his 450K speaking fee only last year or 06.

    Finally, Barack Hussein Obama meets with supporters of Hezbollah terrorist.

    He only recently met with Imam Hassan Qazwini...

    Hezbollah agent Imam Hassan Qazwini

    Gee... Hussein will meet with a Hezbollah terrorist Imam behind closed doors, but then tell other Muslims they're not welcome on his stage? Hypocrite!

    Hypocrite, maniuplator, terrorist connected, commie connected, liar.

    That is your candidate.

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  5. Anonymous6:29 AM

    the milky way,

    I forgot to quote your idiocy...

    "Because Ayers is black and once was once, a long time ago, a subversive, Obama gets tarred."

    Again, an Obama-tron, dimwitted twit.

    Probably some foreign stooge that does not know who Ayers is.

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  6. Anonymous6:31 AM

    Ex-squeeze me, Milky Brain, but i bleieve mr ayers is white, not black.

    And Enron and Worldcom scandals were begun and consummated thru the 1990s--bill clinton's administration. Bush did not take office until 2001.

    Dude, do some research and think for yourself.

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  7. Anonymous6:31 AM

    "...Because Ayers is black and once was once, a long time ago, a subversive, Obama gets tarred..."


    So much idiocy to deal with here....

    First of all, Bill Ayers IS NOT BLACK, where the hell did you come up with that one? Oh, and he was no "poor-boy" that's for goddam sure. Look into his court case and how his rich-daddy bought his way out of jail-time, eventhough he is a unapologetic terrorist. Great friends for the future pres to be having, don't you think?

    Second of all, a long time ago he was subversive???

    Notice him standing on the American flag not 8 years ago?

    Notice the speech in VENEZUELA???
    A socilaist "utopia" who actively engages with talks with any nation or organization deemed "America's enemy", i.e. Iran, FARC, ect.

    Third of all, Obama is running for President, the twisted American-hating characters who will have run of the whitehouse if he gets in makes me sick to my stomach.

    Obama is a liar, a crook, a socialist, a wealth distributor, a non-charity giving POS, a racist, a black nationalist, flip-flopper, back-peddler, ect.,ect.

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  8. Anonymous6:41 AM

    Shortcut to: http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-sent-obama.html


    Obama Timeline

    1975-1979 Attended Highschool - Hawaii Mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, an avowed communist http://www.postchronicle.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=58&num=132576
    1979-1981 Attended Occidental College-Calif.
    1981-1983 attended Columbia Univ.-NYC Graduated 1983
    1983-1985 Worked in NYC part of time for Group founded by Ralph Nader
    1985-1988 Director of DCP- Group sponsored 1st by Woods Fund + Met William Ayers
    1988 Entered Harvard Law School
    1989 Summer interned at Chicago Law firm(Sidley & Austin) where Michelle, his future wife, and Bernedine Dohrn worked. Firm had close ties to Tom Ayers, William's Father
    1990 President Harvard Law Review
    1991 Graduated Harvard Law
    1992 Directed Illinois Project Vote & co founded PUBLIC ALLIES
    1993-1996 Worked as assoc. atty Davis, Miner (Worked summers 1996-2002) Judson Miner an associate of Tom Ayers
    1993-2002 Board of Directors -Woods Fund (William Ayers also) Woods Fund made $40,000 grant to Arab American Action Network(AAAN) headed by Rashid Khalid in 2001, $35,000 in 2002
    1994-2002 Board of Directors -The Joyce Foundation (anti gun grants)+William Ayers (wrote two grants)
    1995-2002 Board of Directors -The Chicago Annenberg Challenge+ William Ayers
    1996-2004 Illinois State Senate
    2004-2008 US senate

    One can draw the conclusion that Obama's relationship with William Ayers is much more extensive than many think

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  9. Ouch!!! This democratic, liberal, dim-witted,idiotic Obama-tron has been thoroughly chastened. Thanks for setting me straight on everything.

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  10. Anonymous7:54 AM

    "...This democratic, liberal, dim-witted,idiotic Obama-tron has been thoroughly chastened..."


    First thing you were correct about; truth hurts, doesn't it?

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  11. I don't know. Is knowing a horrible man somehow horrible in itself? After all, his connection with Ayers seems to be for the good of the community -- I mean, education reform? It was an excellent cause.

    http://www.annenberginstitute.org/Challenge/about/about.html

    I doubt, very much, that this will sink Obama. McCain has plenty of dubious connections of his own. Charles Keaton?

    His connections with Rezko and his pastor are far more relevant. This is just reaching.

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  12. Anonymous8:03 AM

    milkyway,

    you made an assumption based upon ignorance... not only are you a troll, but an ignorant one.

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  13. Dear Anonymous,

    Yes, the truth does hurt. Again, thanks for your wisdom and for your graciousness.

    Kind regards,

    Milky Brain

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  14. Oh, and an ignorant troll. Sorry that one didn't make the original apology. That pretty much says everything that needs to be said.

    Thanks to Joshua for that one!

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  15. Anonymous8:42 AM

    Jaime,

    "Is knowing a horrible man, horrible in itself?"

    It is if you keep associating not only with one horrible man, but hundreds of horrible man. If it were only one, he'd get a pass. But with all the other racist, haters of America, terrorist supporters, etc., Obama must be held accountable for his asscociations in life that he has worked with, campaigned with and is funded by.

    Re: Communist connections to Ayers, a known terrorist. He lied about his connetions. Why? Why don't you address Obama's outright lies and hypocrisy in his denials of Ayers as being close to him?

    Ayers held a fundraisor for him, worked with him, sit on a board with him. The ties go way back.

    Obama is a liar, caught many times over lying about his connections, or throwing them under the bus when the public is informed. Often 20 years after his relations. He suddenly cares? Do you excuse this?

    Ayers and his wife are responsible for the murder of Americans. Guess that is OK with you. Obama's wife worked with Dorhn. The connections are important for people to make informed decisions.

    This is a pattern of Obama's with Communist like Frank Davis an avowed hater of America, much like Ayers who hates America too. Atheist Ayers thinks he has a right to tell everyone how to live. This is fascism. He is a Communist, liberal fascist. It comes thru in Obama's speaking and Marxist Collective Salvation comments as well.

    Frank laid out timelines. There is a history.

    Obama sought and received the Communist "New Party" nomination. He seeks out Communist and radicals of all types. And yes, Communist are bad for America, bad for the world. Over 100 million died at the hands of Communist.

    William Ayers is a radical Communist interested only in revolutionary indoctrination of our children.

    Wake up!

    He wants to indoctrinate our children to his radical communist ideology. He glorifies Bolivia and Venezuela.

    Are you kidding? One man can lead millions astray.

    This is what you want? Chavista hooliganism?

    This is the problem with allowing a government "ruin" our nations most valuable assets - our children.

    For to long, our nation has allowed our stooges in Congress ruin our children thru federal programs never intended by our Founding Fathers.

    So, you'll let Communist "reform(re-educate)" our schools instead of insisting upon Math, Science and Critical Thinking skills in order to compete with the rest of the world?

    Since the 60s our public education programs have steadily failed exactly because Communist loons like Ayers attempts to indoctrinate our children with their socialist policies.

    Our Founding Fathers rejected Ayer's lunacy long ago and understood idiots like him would try to ruin our Constitutional Rights. They were right. They foresaw this day. Benjamin Franklin warned of it.

    The ACLU started by a Communist does everything it can to break down our nation into anarchy by dismantling all rules of society.

    Now, you have the ultimate Manchu Fubar Candidate - Communist Manifesto - Marxist - Black Liberationist running as a Democrat candidate supported by multiple Communist orgs, by Fidel, by Chavez, by Hamas, by Hezbollah, by Iran, and the list keeps growing.

    Our worst enemies love him.

    Wake up!

    The Democrats are now being ruled by nutters, anti-American, anti-Free Market haters. They've laid down their lives to a deceiver, a liar, a fake, empty suit, unexperienced Marxist, that attended 20 years a church of vile hatred.

    Ayers Reform = Communist Re-Education Camps without the bloody revolution.

    If Ayers loves Commies so much, Cuba is waiting for him. Obama and him can take a boat. Along the way they'll see those fleeing for freedom.

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  16. Anonymous8:45 AM

    milky way,

    keep making ignorant uninformed statements like the kind about Ayers.

    Where are you from? That you didn't know about Ayers? Living in a cave?

    And the trash talk, attacking our President.

    You are an ignorant troll until you show otherwise. You'll get it right back at you.

    Grow up. Don't come in spewing a bunch of leftist tripe and then not know the subject matter or the most basic information about Ayers.

    I didn't make you ignorant, you did. Get informed. Or maybe you benefited from one of Ayers reform classes?

    LOL....

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  17. Anonymous8:48 AM

    To Jaime:
    Here's the thing - can you imagine John McCain being closely associated with Eric Rudolph (domestic terrorist who bombed abortion clinics)? Can you imagine McCain launching his political career from the home of Timothy McVeigh? Obama has this type of relationship to Ayers. Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist. If you don't think the Republican Machine will make hay with this, you are truly naive. Forget the so-called "whitey" tape, this may very likely be the October surprise.

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  18. Anonymous9:19 AM

    Good post but your description of Ayers and Dohrn leaves out a lot of their violent history.

    The reason he was able to avoid prosection was because his father is rich. Thomas Ayers was head of Commonwealth Edison, now a subsidiary of Exelon, one of the largest contributors to the BO campaign.

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  19. This article stretches beyond the limits of the imagination in a futile attempt to draw a line between Obama and Ayers.
    I guess under a "Nine Degrees of Separation" principal the Repubs could connect Obama to any scoundrel of their choice.
    Keep trying, Repubs.
    You reek of desperation in trying to smear Obama, for no other reason than that is what you do.
    Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
    Now in this corner we have Repubs rehashing the Wright story and Trinity Church.

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  20. Anonymous9:29 AM

    I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican but find this piece to be a reach. I respect your thought process but this is a great reach! I guess being an American is that we only know and communicate with people just like us. I guess Obama plans to overthrow the Government and turn it into a Marxist state. I guess there are no checks and balances that would counter such a move.

    One can argue that McCain associates with folks just as bad, BIG OIL. You think we should not be concerned that all of his major advisers are linked to the oil companies. You think those folks don't sell this country out for the sake of profits.

    What makes us a great country is that we all can have our say. An intelligent person not only welcomes divergent views. they seek them out. Take you head out of your ass and realize it is not all about us. There is a world out there.

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  21. Anonymous9:34 AM

    Yes - I left out tons of info - but simply wanted to make my point. I am well-versed in the history of the Weathermen and their evasion of justice. People like me (liberal, peace-loving Boomers) really resent these rich spoiled brats who "played" at being revolutionaries, knowing that they would never pay any price for their crimes. Meanwhile working class kids were being shipped off to die in the jungles of Vietnam. These elitist rich bullies talked the talk, but couldn't walk the walk - they hid behind Daddy's coat-tails when the sh#@it really came down. They sicken me. In the end they were brought the 60's movement for social justice to a screeching halt with their frightening terrorism. Thanks alot.

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  22. Anonymous10:00 AM

    Obama-denial never ceases to amaze me. How can anyone possibly minimize domestic terrorism? I don't care if they are on the right or the left (McVeigh or Ayers - take your pick). Someone explain this to me - puh-leez!Obama supporters - this is why the rest of us characterize you as O-bots. You are actually attempting to mitigate, minimize, and otherwise obfuscate a fact about your candidate - he has had many years of a relatively close and cooperative relationship with a known domestic terrorist. This is not "oh this guy did something awful," it is terrorism for christ's sake. Get a grip. Ayers and Dorhn evaded justice because their rich Daddy bought their way out. Dig it.

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  23. I'm an Obama supporter, so I'll just put that out there first. Does Obama's association with Ayers make me uncomfortable? Sure. It seems to me that any measure of success in politics necessitates association with some or other shady character(s).

    We know the Bush family has been in deep with the Saudi royal family for years. That bothers me more than Ayers does.

    Obama's associations with Ayers, from what I can tell, all take place against philanthropic or academic backdrops. If something damning came out of course I would reconsider my support for Obama, but my suspicion is the people who make hay about Ayers do so for the dishonest purpose of putting the word "terrorist" in the same paragraph or sentence as Obama's name.

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  24. Anonymous10:31 AM

    So WALTER ANNENBERG was buddies with Ayres & gave him funds...

    ANNENBERG founded TV GUIDE & got rich (my uncle helped, but took money instead of stock, oh well).

    ANNENBERG was NIXON's Ambassador to the COURT OF SAINT JAMES. ANNENBERG was great friends with RONALD AND NANCY REAGAN.
    He hosted gatherings with Reagan, Frank Sinatra, Bob Hope, Bing Crosby and Charles, Prince of Wales. Annenberg introduced Reagan to Margaret Thatcher. Leonore Annenberg was named by Reagan as the State Department's Chief of Protocol and Reagan gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom.


    So doesn't that make Ayres a freaking Republican?


    Guilt by association is a pretty slimy game.

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  25. Anonymous10:33 AM

    Brendan -
    This is another example of an Obama supporter trying to obfuscate the facts. Facts are funny things - we cannot change them no matter how we try. We (you and I) did not choose Obama's associations for him. He did. This is why we can factually put Obama and terrorism in the same sentence. So what if his association with Ayers is for for "philanthropic" reasons (although facts show that Ayers helped him launch his political campaign as well)? Terrorist groups are often associated with philanthropic endeavors (Hamas for example). I still pose this question for you: can you imagine McCain working closely with Eric Rudolph to raise money for Save-a-Life? Or with Timothy McVay to fund the Minutemen movement? The philanthropic causes championed by Ayers are about radicalizing America's youth in Marxist ideology through education. As the late, great John Lennon said "If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow."
    By the way - I'm not voing for McCain. I am a life-long Democrat. I suspect that next you will be shouting me down as a bigoted racist clinging to my guns and religion.

    By the way - the PUMAs are gathering....

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  26. But there's no evidence of Obama teaming up with Ayers to do anything unseemly. Beyond that I really don't care. If you show me something credible that says Obama and Ayers funneled money to Hezbollah or something, I'll vote for someone else. I don't think anything like that exists, which is why the entire tack is guilt by association. Ayers is a big cheese in Chicago. It's hard to believe anyone could advance in city politics without crossing his path.

    Again, show me something more nefarious than being in the same room with the guy and I'll concede the point.

    Also you picked the wrong guy to tag as a snob. I'm a white guy living in the rural south who doesn't make all that much money and has a great respect and admiration for religious faith and gun ownership.

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  27. Anonymous said...
    "Brendan -
    This is another example of an Obama supporter trying to obfuscate the facts. Facts are funny things - we cannot change them..." and blah.

    I'm sorry, anonymous, I think your arguments will only appeal to those already predisposed towards hating Obama. You won't win over anyone else. Nice try, though.

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  28. Anonymous11:12 AM

    Brendan,
    I'll just re-post my last thought on this for the day:
    "Obama-denial never ceases to amaze me. How can anyone possibly minimize domestic terrorism?"

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  29. I don't think anyone's minimizing domestic terrorism. There's nothing out there to suggest Obama has ever been involved in domestic terrorism or supported it in word or deed.

    I don't think anyone's hands are clean in politics, and I'm not one of the 'Obamabots' won over by the marketing strategy. I know Obama is not a saint and his election won't cure everything that ails America. I agree with him on most policy points, that's why I'm voting for him.

    But Ayers is a free man, though people may fairly characterize him as the beneficiary of a bungled prosecution. And though he's also a nutjob who put people's lives in danger many years ago, and still says crazy things, he hasn't tossed any bombs lately. If I thought Ayers would be in the White House counseling Obama I wouldn't vote for him. The fact that they served together on foundation boards and were colleagues at U. Chicago does not give me pause. Given all the information currently out there, I'm satisfied that it's a non-story.

    I'd recommend that the opponents of Obama pick one kind of dangerous radical and stick to pummeling him with that. I don't know how feasible it is to be in league with left-wing hippies, fundamentalist Muslims and black nationalist Christians at the same time.

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  30. Anonymous11:58 AM

    Ben Franklin said that rebellions are legal in the first person ("my rebellion") and illegal in the third person ("their rebellion"). But really it all comes down to the difference between action and attitude. In this country, to date anyway, you can't prosecute a person for what they think. Ayers can think what he likes about socialism, and so can Ben Bernanke. It's when people like Kenny-boy Lay turn larcenous ideas into larcenous acts that alarm bells need to go off.

    BTW, speaking as a Chicago native and resident, Bill Ayers just isn't that big a cheese.

    There have been a lot of logical stretches by the anti-Barack folks, but most of them just don't connect A and B. To say that Obama was shoe-horned into the nomination by some secret cabal of nuclear-power advocates and Chicago politicians hungry for a black candidate leaves out quite a few steps, mainly the reality that white men in positions of power and influence in this country (the "stupid white men" Michael Moore wrote about) simply wouldn't want to share "their" power with a black anything--unless the black candidate could be put into a box and his power limited. Case in point: Colin Powell, who advocated affirmative action and a woman's right to choose. Consequently, Dubbya appoints him to the one cabinet post where neither affirmative action nor pro-choice are factors: the State Department. Powell, of course, was a brainwashed cog in the Green Machine and allowed Dubbya to castrate him, keeping him substantially out of the loop for all decisions related to the Iraq War. Twas ever thus, especially among black GOP: they have never been given their due, never been allowed to go off-script.

    So the elaborate conspiracy theory involving Obama, nuke plants and Chicago pols not only lacks hard evidence of its existence, but also lacks a logical foundation. Most of the Obama scary stories are like that: just enough truth to seem plausible to the gullible and to those fearful of ceding power to a black man in the first place.

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  31. Let's get to the heart of the matter:

    The people that the Big 0 has surrounded himself with ... Ayers is just one example ... are predominantly those with the following mindset:

    "We consider America, because it is confidently assertive on the world stage, to be 'uppity' ... and therefore we must strive to put her 'in her place', by reducing her to the least-common-denominator of international standing."

    Such as these consider themselves "citizens of the world" first, without regard to what that world has demonstrated by its actions ...

    ... a combination of apathy and realpolitik that prioritizes the prevention of hypothetical American misdemeanor, over the interdiction of demonstrated thug intent (in large part because pushing America back is perceived as pushing themselves forward)...

    ... that has resulted in the maintenance of a facade of "peace" behind which thugs and fanatics can continue to prepare and execute the denial of life and liberty over large numbers of people.

    That's not to say that the shady associations shouldn't be scrutinized ... what I am saying is that, even if there is no illegality involved in these associations, these relationships have and are shaping a man who aspires to lead our nation.

    It is shaping him to not defend life and liberty, unless thousands are dead on our streets first ...

    ... and even then, make his highest priority a self-examination of our motives and actions to see if we were the "root cause" of the violence ...

    ... while the guilty parties are treated as though they have committed a common mugging, complete with variations upon the Exclusionary Rule and Miranda warnings -- when in fact they have committed acts of war, that deserve no such consideration of their "rights" on our part.

    We tried living under that paradigm, for YEARS, with respect to our response to radical Islam ... even tempering our response to acts of war in the 1990's by these thugs.

    The reward for our "understanding" and "sense of justice"?

    The events of 11 Sept 2001.

    The people surrounding the Big 0 simply do not believe we are at war ... let alone deserve to win it.

    And from what I see, he in large part agrees with them.

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  32. Anonymous4:36 PM

    Dnn12560,

    More propaganda from the Obama-trons.

    This is first degree as in hand-shaken, money-taken, fund-raising, I'll support your Communist wishes Obama.

    Get off your high horse. The only reason you people are showing up is the truth has brought you out of the dark. And you know this truth will hit the light of day come fall and millions will know of Obamas willing connections to Communist. He has seeked them out his enitre life.

    That you try to deny it is pathetic and shows a high level of dishonesty on your part, as high as the false messiah you so desire to worship.

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  33. Anonymous4:47 PM

    Brendan,

    If you satisfied to vote for a terrorist supporting Obama, then vote for him.

    This is but one connection in Obama's life of seedy decisions.

    He is serving together with William Ayers because he will advance Ayers ideas of Revolution across our nation - the Commie Red - kind of revolution.

    If you like supporting that type of revolution. Do it.

    But we will get the word out what he supports, who he supports and who supports him.

    Americans deserve to have all the information in front of them so they may make an informed decision.

    The left is doing and will do all it can to undercut John McCain. A true hero of this nation, that fought communist. While William Ayers namby pamby rich boy was seeking to bomb Americans.

    This is your candidate. Stand with him, Commies, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, Fidel, Chavez and all his other cronies. Frank Davis, his Communist Mentor that hates America. His 20 years attending a Marxist Hate America church.

    The list is endless of your false messiah's worship of all things Marxist.

    He shouldn't have lied down with snakes. That was his choice. No amount of whining and hissing from the Obama-trons matters.

    You protesteth to much.

    LOL... southern gun owner. Pffft.

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  34. Joshua:
    Where do you get your wild-eyed ideas about Obama being a Communist, having Communist connections? etc.
    Savage? Limpballs?
    It sounds to me like your could be paranoid or even delusional.

    Please don't shoot yourself in November after Obama is elected president.
    I want you to live long enough through Obama's term to recognize just how totally idiotic your paranoid fantasies really were.

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  35. Anonymous8:19 PM

    Don12560,

    Ignoramous read. I didn't say Obama was a Communist. I said he had communist connections all his life. And he has Marxist connections. He studied under a Marxist Black Liberation Theologist for 20 years.

    LOL! Are you so clueless?

    His Preacher, the Rev Wright, you know the one? White hater? Racist? The G_d D____ America-KKK lunatic?

    He said he runs a Black Liberation Church! He ran his church based upon the teachings of James Cone, another avowed hater of whites. Racist all, thats your man Obama. Your man surrounded himself with haters of America and he milked it for all he could until now.

    How can you be so ignorant of your candidates past and his actions?

    Try reading something besides Crazy Left Bat Quana Cave News for a moment. Come out into the light.

    Frank Davis, Communist Party USA - Member. Vehement hater of America was Obama's founder. Davis was a racist too... Soviet tool, Communist.

    Frank in these comments(not Davis) made a well known short list for idiots like you to read in one minute. Look above. Read it. These are well known Obama ties thru his entire life.

    Get a clue, take your hands off your ears and eyes. Stop babbling with your tongue out blah, blah, blah and hurling insults. And read.

    Obama pursued and received the Nomination by the "New Party" - A Communist Party USA creation in an attempt to disown their Communist labels. The same commuist party his mentor Frank Davis belonged to.

    The only one that is delusional Don12560 is you. For refusing to acknowledge his life long connections to Communist, their fund raising events for him, his seeking Communist nominations and approvals, and more political affairs with far left nutjob radicals, plus Islamic radicals.

    You are a clown thinking that your assertions mean anything but lies.
    This may work on some far left site that you grovel at daily, but not here.

    Know your facts or go back to where you were spawned, most like DailyKossacks, or HuffPo retards.

    Grow up, wake up and stop pushing trash that is shoved down your piehole without any skepticism. You are the direct result of Garbage In/Garbage Out. You feed on garbage daily and then wonder why you spew forth garbage.

    Go back to lalaland and dream of Cuba and Fidel. Watch the Propaganda movie about the glorious healthcare system that Michael Moore revealed to puppets like you. Maybe you can take a vacation in one of their seedy hospital rooms. Let us know when you come back with hepatitus B.

    What an Obama-tron tool.

    That you could actually support such a man speaks of your obvious lack of knowledge, lack of character and inability to cogently recognize scum in Chi-town politics.

    If you want to support trash, do so. But don't expect normaml Americans to follow you over the cliff. We will vote for a true hero that has done more for this country than your little Communist loving, Hamas loving, Allah prayer singing, Chi-town dirty politics, power grubbing Master has ever done.

    Now... off to your mosque or gulag. Doesn't matter which as they both enslave you.

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  36. Anonymous11:34 PM

    Rats keep surfacing...

    Official Obama blogger - Marxist rag writer and socialist harvard schmuck...

    hattip: newsbusters and common ills

    Marxist for Obama Yet Again

    The trails of rat cheeze is never-ending maze of commie walls, marxist stalls and socialist falls.

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  37. Joshua
    Man, you scare me.
    You are really the one who is influenced by propaganda, in your case the far far right.
    I can tell you your subjective opinions are mere wild-eyed interpretations and spin of reality. And what is this link to a Obama-hating propaganda website?
    I can direct you to websites that insist George Bush planned 9-11.
    Even if there was an element of truth to your wild-eyed claims, if you are an American and believe in our government system (questionable), you would know we have three branches of government and a system of checks and balances to stop any president from tilting too far towards anti-Democratic platforms, socialism or otherwise.
    We are seeing this happen with George Bush who has failed miserably to push the executive branch into an anti-Constitutional monarchy having the ability to trash the Geneva Convention.
    The problem with McCain is he wants to carry on the very same policies that left us with an insurmountable debt, a black hole war in Iraq sucking away lives and treasure, a failed economy, the largest expansion of government in history, etc. Yes, McCain voted with Bush policies 90 percent of the time these last seven years.
    But I shouldn't be trying to reason with someone delusional.
    And please don't extrapoliate Obama's more progressive thinking with Marxism, etc.
    You are likely another right-wing hypocrite. If you or a loved one has ever received an unemployment check or if you have a parent or grandparent that has ever been on social security, or if you have kids who attend public schools, you are taking advantage of progressive or "liberal" policies upon which our Constitution and are government system have been built.

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  38. My, my, my....

    The cockroaches that are the totalitarian Obamatrolls sure came out of the woodwork on this thread.

    I guess the truth hurts a bit too much for then so they are screeching.

    Sorry, Obamatrolls. There is not enough lipstick in the world to cover up exactly who and what your messiah is. It is the stench that gives him away.

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  39. Anonymous9:04 PM

    Obama is a typical red diaper baby, the product of the worst of leftwing 1950/60s politics.

    His mother Ann Dunham was a communist fellow traveler who apparently idealized the "Third World" - where a new socialism free from the failures of the Soviet Union was supposed to take hold - and was eager to get away from America as far as possible.

    Her marriages to African socialist Obama Sr. and later Indonesian muslim oil manager Lolo Soetoro seem very much politically inspired.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of interracial relationships, but these were both failed marriages that don't make much sense other than against the 1960/70s political backdrop.

    The Soetoro marriage failed because 'he became more American, she once said, as she became more Javanese' (quote from Dunham's friend Alice G. Dewey in the New York Times).

    That Obama later in life is surrounded by 1960s socialist radicals and muslim and pseudo-christian black nationalists is no coincidence. It's who he is.

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  40. Anonymous10:26 AM

    Jim,,thanx for posting my email..I'm happy it sparked a discussion and more people are aware of this

    to those who think this is no big deal...

    here's what you're missing..it's no big deal to you on the left but it will be to those in the center and right. Here's a man who wants to be President who came out of nowhere and runs his campaign based on his superior judgement, his honesty and his principles. Why, he's a new kind of politician!

    20 years in a racist church..says he had no idea Rev. Wright was saying these things..despite the fact that the good Rev. Wright sold his sermons on DVD thru the internet, had a radio program, published a weekly bulletin and a monthy magazine..ok if obama is to believed ..kinda got the wool pulled over his eyes huh?..says alot about his superior judgement

    Rezko..or should I say the newly convicted Rezko..what kind of judgement is it for a public official to be so close with such a man?

    Ayers is significant for a few reasons..1) ..he is an unrepentant terrorist in this post 9/11 world..
    2)Obama has not been forthcoming and again is trying to hide his relationship with Ayers. Being made the chairman of this fund at the age of 33 was quite a feat..You'd think he'd want people to know this, especially in light of his lack of experience..any experience should be played up.yet..nothing! Why ?..Because that would expose his relationship with ayers..unless someone has a different theory.

    And to those who say it's a reach that this proves there was a relantionship I suggest you read steve diamond's latest.He goes into great detail.

    this will break and it wont go over well for Obama

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  41. "20 years in a racist church..says he had no idea Rev. Wright was saying these things..despite the fact that the good Rev. Wright sold his sermons on DVD thru the internet, had a radio program, published a weekly bulletin and a monthy magazine..ok if obama is to believed ..kinda got the wool pulled over his eyes huh?..says alot about his superior judgement"

    You're a fool. In 20 years of Sermons only on a few occasions notably after 9-11 did he make comments that could be deemed racial or anti-American, and even these comments have been characterized by many nonpartisan sources in the media as clearly being quoted out of context.

    You're stretching for a reason, ANY REASON, no matter how lame, to hate Obama. Keep trying. You might come up with something, yet!

    Ayers "will break and it wont go over well for Obama."

    It has already broke and, as with Wright, most everyone has yawned, with the exception of the right-tilted Obama haters.
    Get over it.

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  42. Actually, I think Obama's personal link to former Superior Bank chairperson Penny Pritzker of Chicago's billionaire Pritzker dynasty and to Columbia University Trustee Eric Holder are more politically significant connections to consider. In addition, Obama's now-deceased mother, Ann Dunham, was employed by the U.S. Embassy in Indonesia just a few years after the U.S. Embassy-supported 1965 right-wing military coup in Indonesia led to the deaths of between 500,000 and 1 million Indonesian civilians.

    In preparation for his unsuccessful campaign for congress in Chicago against former Chicago Black Panther Party leader Bobby Rush, Obama apparently posed as some kind of anti-imperialist radical leftist during the 1990s when he sat on the same board as Bill Ayers. But since Obama secured the financial and political backing of Chicago's Pritzker and Crown billionaire dynasties and Daley's politically corrupt Cook County Democratic Party political machine, Obama has apparently moved to the right politically in a politically opportunist way.

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  43. Anonymous8:42 PM

    Don...

    " In 20 years of and even these comments have been characterized by many nonpartisan sources in the media as clearly being quoted out of context."



    Really?..That is what Obama said initially before Wright's appearance before the national press club..then when he couldn't use the "taken out of context " argument anymore he threw Wright under an already crowded bus

    as for the obama/ayers connection being out there that is COMPLETE BS ..noone I've talked has heard about it..(I love it when their jaws drop)..the wright story was on the blogs for months before it went national..and trust me..you haven't heard the last about the good Rev.

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  44. ++

    thanks for all the info & links everyone,
    here's a few more (pardon any repeats)

    Bill & Barack's Excellent Adventure

    Obama - Ayers

    Obama's Weathermen Ayers and Dohrn

    Conversacion con Bill Ayers, parte 7

    Chesa Boudin, radical chic Rhodes scholar.

    excerpt:

    [To make clear he has embraced the ideology of all his parents, he observes: "We have a different name for the war we're fighting now—now we call it the war on terrorism, then they called it the war on communism. My parents were all dedicated to fighting U.S. imperialism around the world. I'm dedicated to the same thing."]

    Ayers on Chavez Board

    Obama also has ties to ie: Alinsky.. ACORN (amongst others), not to mention the New Party, and a whole host of other dubious others (to say the least)..

    ==

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  45. ++

    will this get out??

    oh please.. the M(arxist) S(upport) M(achine) is so in bed with Obama et al.. they're still passing off REBUBLICAN Martin Luther King Jr. as if he were an Obama mentor & one of their own.. gah!!

    ==

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  46. ++

    Ayers, Obama, Rezko

    excerpt:

    [Barack Obama served on the board of directors of Woods Fund of Chicago from 1993 to 2001. During that time, the tax exempt foundation made some interesting grants, including one to Obama’s church, Trinity United Church of Christ, headed by Rev. Jeremiah Wright at the time. Grants were also made to ACORN, a left wing voter registration group and to a partnership for constructing low income housing. The fund also used Northern Trust for financial services, which is the same company that provided Obama his 2005 mortgage.

    n 2001 the board of directors included Obama, William Ayers (photo), the former Weather Underground radical terrorist, and serving as chairman was Howard J. Stanback who headed New Kenwood LLC, a limited liability company founded by now-convicted felon Tony Rezko and Allison Davis, Obama’s former boss at the law firm of Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland.]

    the web untangle's, faster please!!

    ==

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  47. Anonymous7:24 PM

    Stanley Kurtz wrote an excellent article about

    "the Chicago-based Gamaliel Foundation, one of the least known yet most influential national umbrella groups for church-based "community organizers."...Gamaliel organizers have discovered a way to fuse their Left-extremist political beliefs with a smooth, non-ideological surface of down-to-earth pragmatism: the substance of Jeremiah Wright with the appearance of Norman Vincent Peale. Could this be Obama's secret? "

    Well worth taking your time to read and fill in the holes we have all been searching for.

    http://www.eppc.org/publications/pubID.3521/pub_detail.asp

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  48. Really? This is it? Oooo, Obama was on an education board and associated with this 60s radical? Yeah! And Obama's gonna destroy this country by making it socialist. Yeah! And fear and hate and fear! I love it!

    Really, why don't all you conservatives just say what really scares you about Obama: He's black with a funny name and can't be trusted.

    What a ruse.

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  49. Zeke ... if Tim McVeigh had been released on a technicality, then initiated and continued a WORKING relationship with John McCain in, say, a foundation promoting support for veterans ...

    ... all the while telling us that he wished he could do more than "just" what he did in OKC to "keep the black helicopters away" ...

    ... would you blow it off so easy?

    We know what scares you and your ilk ... the idea that someone might criticize your choices in life, and/or that they might have a different basis of faith than the humanist Party Line.

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  50. BTW Zeke, we have plenty to fear from an Obama Administration ... for many of us have already lived through something similar.

    Obama: Carter 2.0.

    Nothing to do with name or color.

    Everything to do with policy and ideology.

    And as for the ruse ... the biggest ruse is The Biggest Lie of All, promoted by the Big 0 and his fellow Dimocrats (along with not a few RINOS) for years:

    All you have to do, is show up for work ... we'll make sure that OTHERS take care of the rest of the economic challenges you face.

    That is, as opposed to letting you keep the resources to responsibly work out your own economic destiny, limiting government involvement to the protection of their integrity.

    We've seen how well that has worked in the last few weeks.

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