Surge Success Undeniable-- Dems & Media Forced to Eat Crow
Ketchup?
Unlike liberals, George Bush was not about to lose the war in Iraq.
Finally... The New York Times admits that Bush was right and the surge was a massive success.
The cocksure war supporters learned this humbling lesson during the dark days of 2006. And now the cocksure surge opponents, drunk on their own vindication, will get to enjoy their season of humility. They have already gone through the stages of intellectual denial. First, they simply disbelieved that the surge and the Petraeus strategy was doing any good. Then they accused people who noticed progress in Iraq of duplicity and derangement. Then they acknowledged military, but not political, progress. Lately they have skipped over to the argument that Iraq is progressing so well that the U.S. forces can quickly come home.Gina Cobb adds, "The Americans who elected George W. Bush as their commander in chief, or who at least gave him the benefit of the doubt in wartime, were right."
Enjoy your crow, Harry Reid.
We await your apology to President Bush and the troops.
Related... Flopping Aces reported that a pre-war Al-Qaeda camp in Iraq tested positive for biological and chemical weapons.
UPDATE: Sadly, even today, Democrats still seem wholly uninterested in the outcome in Iraq.
How anyone can take them seriously on national security is beyond comprehension.
posted by Gateway Pundit at 6/24/2008 05:44:00 AM
38 Comments:
I love this blog. You are so unbelievably clueless it seriously brings joy to my heart. Bush = Tha Greatest Evar! This is the blog I point my international friends to. Just so they can understand the mentality of one of the 19% that supports Bush. Go get em' kiddo!
I love this blog. You are so unbelievably clueless it seriously brings joy to my heart. Bush = Tha Greatest Evar! This is the blog I point my international friends to. Just so they can understand the mentality of one of the 19% that supports Bush. Go get em' kiddo!
I am one of the 100% that supports your mother's bush. BOO-YAH BITCH! Troll Attack!
"This is the blog I point my international friends to. Just so they can understand the mentality of one of the 19% that supports Bush. Go get em' kiddo!"
Bitter much? I am part of that percentage and have no problem admitting it. This is the reason he received my vote the second time around, because he needed to complete the task--I'm thankful that it is being done, and FINALLY being acknowledged.
Let's see: MSNBC - no liberal outfit - admits that AlQaeda was in Iraq before 9/11, with bio weapons.
Which means Bush was right.
But in your world, that's just "cluelessness."
Bush was right. Taking out Saddam was right. Bringing Democracy to Iraq was right.
Count me as one of the 31% who admires Bush. As opposed to the 13% who admire congress.
This is the blog I point my international friends to.
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All you have to say is contained in that one sentence.
Go back to your little clique, which is really nothing more than a mutual admiration society.
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Anon @ 9:47 AM Party
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Hmmm. Let's see. David Brooks writes an OPINION PIECE in the NY Times, and people treat it as fact. Yet, same opinion piece fails to mention the GAO report which highlights what critics of the Bush Administration have been saying all along: the surge is working to a certain degree. But, keep in mind, it was always understood by analysts that the violence rate of nearly 100 Iraqi's being killed each day that was the high mark set in late 2006 was never going to be maintained for very long. Such huge spikes never are... So, the "success" is a combination of things, but measured as real success... it falls apart. Even the Pentagon report agrees on specific points with the GAO report that the White House, for some reason, conflicts with:
"Administration figures, according to the report, broadly overstate gains in some categories, including the readiness of the Iraqi Army, electricity production and how much money Iraq is spending on its reconstruction."
Read the reports.... Oh. That's right. No one here cares about facts. Just propaganda.
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Patm @ 10:22 AM.. (thumbsup)
Bush Was Right
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Anon @ 11:04 AM..
MNF
FJI
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"Tha Greatest Evar!"...
Someone get this fool some lessons in the English language....
Hey bg, loved the Great Moments in Democratic Extremism link...
"admits that AlQaeda was in Iraq before 9/11, with bio weapons."
Ah, link please? Or is this something you read in an email or heard on Michael Savage or Fox News?
You mean the connection between Iraq and 9/11 that has been stated to be incorrect by the 9/11 Commission and half a dozen reports, but it still peddled by VP Cheney as truth, and by nominee John McCain, who has to be corrected for it? Is that what you're talking about?
And, where are those bio weapons btw?
Thanks for the laughs! The clown factor here is just priceless!
BG, I wouldn't promote that Bush is Right video too much.
I was in a bar in Kentucky where the very liberal good ol' boys there who all voted for Bush twice play that video on the big screen and it means that the first person to buy the house a round gets a free "I voted for Bush, but am American enough to admit it." t-shirt. No one has the money to buy the house a round, but it gets a lot of tempers flaring.
And, not any of them care to hear about why their sons are still over there in Iraq. Not a one.
Four rotations is enough.
BG, why don't you read the reports?
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08837.pdf
Here's a story on the report by the Pentagon: http://128.11.143.113/english/2008-06-23-voa62.cfm?rss=topstories
Keep on peddling that propaganda though.
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Anon @ 11:44 AM..
[You mean the connection between Iraq and 9/11 that has been stated to be incorrect by the 9/11 Commission and half a dozen reports, but it still peddled by VP Cheney as truth, and by nominee John McCain, who has to be corrected for it? Is that what you're talking about?]
Media Suppress Hamilton's Scolding
of Misreporting of Iraq-Qaeda
excerpt:
[Kean: "Were there contacts between al-Qaeda and Iraq? Yes. Some of them are shadowy, but there's no question they were there."
Hamilton, two soundbites: "I must say I have trouble understanding the flap over this.
The Vice President is saying, I think, that there were connections between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's government. We don't disagree with that."
"So it seems to me that the sharp differences that the press has drawn, the media has drawn, are not that apparent to me."
Thus Hamilton undermined the premise of two days of the media line on how the report supposedly undermined Bush and Cheney.]
at any rate..
9/11 references re: Iraq/AQ
try not to miss the "forest" that is AQ whilst straining your eyes on Iraq, which is but a tree in AQ's jungle..
Commission confirms links
excerpts:
[A 9/11 commission staff report is being cited to argue that the administration was wrong about there being suspicious ties and contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda. In fact, just the opposite is true.
The staff report documents such links.
The staff report concludes that:
• Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with Iraq during his time in Sudan."
• "A senior Iraqi intelligence officer reportedly made three visits to Sudan, finally meeting bin Laden in 1994."
• "Contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda also occurred after bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan."
Chairman Thomas Kean has confirmed: "There were contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda, a number of them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely there."
Following news stories, Vice Chairman Lee Hamilton said he did not understand the media flap over this issue and that the commission does not disagree with the administration's assertion that there were connections between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's government.
President Bush and members of his administration have said all along that there were contacts and that those contacts raised troubling questions.]
[The president did not order the liberation of Iraq in retaliation for 9/11. He sent American troops to Iraq to remove a grave and gathering threat to America's security. Because he acted, Iraq is free, and America and the world are safer.]
al Qaeda in Iraq
more links @ link & in comments sections..
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Anon @ 12:04 PM..
[BG, why don't you read the reports?]
because the GOA has a bad rep as far as facts on the ground go.. so keep your eyes open for a report on the GOA report.. a follow up of sorts always comes out about 2 weeks to a month after they've sold their propaganda to the public (after they've caught up to reality of the situation, as their report info usually ranges anywhere from 6 months to a year behind no matter what date they stamp on it)..
but the main reason is.. i get my info straight from the horses mouth so to speak, iow: from those on the ground in Iraq, ie: the soldiers with boots on the ground, embeds, Iraqis as well as Iraqi sources, not to mention MNF & FJI.. (thumbsup)
i don't have cable news (they ALL suq), and i don't read Marxist Support Machine newspapers unless i have to!!
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http://welovebush.blogspot.com
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Anon @ 11:49 AM..
[BG, I wouldn't promote that
Bush is Right video too much.]
well, that's one for me, seeing as how i'm not you..
and i could tell isolated stories that have no way of being confirmed too, but thank goodness i don't have to!!
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"I love this blog. You are so unbelievably clueless it seriously brings joy to my heart. Bush = Tha Greatest Evar! This is the blog I point my international friends to."
Maybe you should point your friends towards the NY Times because it is their article.
By the way, whenever I want to convince my friends of the total failure of the American school system, I am going to use your post.
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Anon @ 12:30 PM..
i read the 'reports'..
i understand the lingo very well.. successes are always played down.. and i don't know, but it sure seems to me that you don't retain anything but what you perceive to be related to doom & gloom aspects.. so again i must say, glad i'm not you..
ps: i consider over 30,000 troops coming home as being a strategic change of course.. i've got news for the GOA, Petraeus et al are way ahead of them.. so either they don't recognize ongoing changes occurring right under their noses, or the way they write up their reports is not meant to be coherent as far as public consumption goes (which again, is normal).. i say it's a bit of both, but what do i know..
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Anonymous @ 12:32 PM..
thanks for the link, but i won't be clicking on it..
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TaSS @ 12:49 PM..
lol.. (thumbsup)
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Hey, want to count the number of countries with admittedly stronger connections to Al Qaeda than Iraq? Want to count the number of countries with an admittedly stronger chance of placing nuclear or biological weapons in the hands of Islamic extremists? Care to read some old 90's PNAC letters to the president (signed by a virtual who's who of the Bush administration) that encourage us to invade Iraq under equally flimsy pretenses? Care to continue this ridiculous train of Al Qaeda arguments that Iraq was top security threat compared to a litany of other, more dangerous nations? What's the Taliban up to these days anyways...
It's nice to see there are still some Bush supporters out there willing to go down with this ship, I was afraid Hannity would be lonely.
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Anonymous @ 3:29 PM..
we knew AQ was in over 60 countries.. but ONLY Iraq was in breach of the 1991 Treaty Saddam signed & umpteen UN Resolutions..
and i kind of like your idea (as dumb & unrelated to the dual war we've been fighting & are now winning in Iraq), but just for fun, lets count the bait & switch Democrats first!!
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btw Anonymous @ 3:29 PM..
do you recall what the Clinton Bosnia / Kosovo wars were about?? did you know that Clinton invaded w/o the UN's permission (thumbsup), go figure huh??
oh yeah, speaking of the UN, wonder if the Sudan / Darfur is doing as well as Rwanda did by them (not to mention Kenya or Zimbabwe)??
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btw Anonymous @ 3:29 PM..
funny how much has been learned about what AQ, Iran & Syria, not to mention Lybia, had been up to since we went into Iraq.. whereas previously, the International Community (and i use that term loosely) apparently didn't have a clue huh??
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Anon 3:29PM:
All your talking points are D3 ... discussed/debated/debunked ... and have been so for years.
Hey, want to count the number of countries with admittedly stronger connections to Al Qaeda than Iraq?
Want to count the number of nations with admittedly stronger ties to Islamofascist terrorism in general, than Iraq? AQ isn't the only enemy out there.
Want to count the number of countries with an admittedly stronger chance of placing nuclear or biological weapons in the hands of Islamic extremists?
Define "stronger" ... keep in mind that Saddam had a history of being a much looser cannon than, say, the Iranians or Kim Jong Il.
Care to read some old 90's PNAC letters to the president (signed by a virtual who's who of the Bush administration) that encourage us to invade Iraq under equally flimsy pretenses?
Pretenses like ... the history that shows us that the threats to life and liberty in our civilization ALWAYS come from nations who implement alternatives to rights-respecting governance?
And conversely, the history that shows us that rights-respecting nations (including America) pose no threat to anyone seeking to interact peacefully with our civilization ... and in fact, many of today's rights-respecting nations were former enemies who were transformed into prosperous, peaceful nations by adopting rights-respecting governance (and that's not just mere democracy, BTW).
Maybe you should research your buzzwords a little better.
Care to continue this ridiculous train of Al Qaeda arguments that Iraq was top security threat compared to a litany of other, more dangerous nations? What's the Taliban up to these days anyways...
I'll tell you what they aren't up to ... running Afghanistan, and ending their existence is being dealt with more and more effectively.
My question is, do you care to continue the mindset of 10 Sept 2001 ...
... that is, decades of INACTION and indecisiveness, rooted in an abject lack of confidence in the principles this nation was founded upon ...
... carried on even in the face of an ongoing war waged by terrorists, aided and abetted by readily-identifiable rogue nations?
That is your legacy ... the Legacy of Carter, McGovern, and Woodstock ... and y'all are trying to save it BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
That is the legacy that opened the doors wide for the events of 11 Sept 2001 ... for the best it could ever do, is maintain a status quo where the drip-drip-drip of death at the hands of thugs like Saddam -- and the efforts to turn that drip into a stream running beyond their borders -- was the result.
No liberation came from that.
No significant dismantling of arms stockpiles came from that.
No sustainable peace came from that.
OTOH, the two Men those like you have maligned the most in my lifetime with your regurgitation of talking points ... our current President and President Reagan ...
... have liberated hundreds of millions of people from oppression.
... have facilitated REAL reductions in arms stockpiles -- including the ONLY comprehensive weapons inspections Iraq ever received.
... have created the conditions for sustainable peace, in many parts of the world ... conditions that are validated by history, and further validated in Iraq today.
Two things to keep in mind.
1> Where people aren't free, peace is just an illusion.
2> The real peace song of our time is not Kumbiyah ...
... it is Yippie-Ky-Ay-A.
The argument for going into Iraq was not Al qaeda (they came later) the argument was
href="http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/hussein.html">Saddam Hussein
Iraq is better off without him. We are better off with him gone and the world is just slightly a better place.
You want to argue otherwise?
Bill Clinton and Iraq
But it's futile to keep arguing the same points again and again. It's what we do from here and there is only one way that makes sense and will not lead us back to Iraq again and again, finish the job; wait until Iraq has stabilized and follow the advice of the commanders on the ground.
Saddam Hussein killer file
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OT re: bg @ 4:02 PM..
Anon, this is for you & your ilk..
The Bush Doctrine Is Relevant Again
[Zimbabwe is now another spot on the map of the civilized world's troubled conscience. Burma is also there, along with Tibet and Darfur. (Question: When will "Free Zimbabwe" bumper stickers become ubiquitous?) These are uniquely nasty places, and not just because uniquely nasty things are happening. They're nasty because the dissonance between the wider world's professed concern and what it actually does is almost intolerable.
Look at the legislation that has been proposed or passed in the U.S. Congress on Darfur. There is the Darfur Peace and Accountability Act (H.R. 3127), signed by President Bush into law in 2006, which sanctions officials identified as responsible for the genocide. There is House Resolution 992, which urges the president to appoint a special envoy to Sudan. (The president did appoint an envoy; care to remember his name?)
RTWT!!
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HT : Brian H via ITM
There Is a Plan, and It Is Working
excerpts:
[Diyala Province, Iraq — The news from here — even when accurately reported — so often obscures more than it reveals.]
[But rather than strike the insurgents and leave, we stayed. For more than seven weeks now, our Troopers have lived in the villages. We have conducted civil/military assessments in long-neglected towns, hired more than 200 Iraqi men to guard their homes and communities, established an Iraqi-police presence, and have built trust and confidence every day. When we do leave, we will leave behind a functioning government where before there was torture, death, and destruction.
All this brings us back full circle to the lack of narrative in news reporting. Googling “Balad Ruz” in Google News leads to reports of the suicide bombing (erroneously reported as occurring during a wedding party), reports of a mortar attack that killed two people, and one small positive story about a few IEDs we found and detonated. That’s it. No narrative. No context. No sense that an entire al-Qaeda safe haven has been restored to Iraqi government control and certainly no sense that there are now American Soldiers and Iraqi Security Forces living, working, and building a community on ground where insurgents freely roamed.]
God Bless Soldiers everywhere for putting THEIR
lives on the line to protect us ALL from terrorism!
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LOL...
It appears the Zoo has let out the animals from their cages.
Did the Obama-trons get out of kindergarten? ThinkProgressIdiotarians send their SorosRobots over? Did DailyKomrade Marxist send their graduates of the Fidel Stupido Propaganda school?
BG,
thanks for providing sanity to the clueless rants by far left nutjob truthers.
I'm surprised they didn't tell you 9/11 was an inside job.
LOL!
Meanwhile, while far left idiots rant for lost causes of defeat, doom and gloom, our troops continue making great progress in Iraq, winning new allies in war against Islamic terrorist radicals, rebuilding two nations, liberating over 50 million people, and changing the landscape of hatred and brainwashing by a tyrant into a free media, open elections, new vibrant young country that will contribute to the growing free world.
al Qaeda leader killed in Mosul
Oh yeah, forgot this good news as well...
Three Millions Iraqis Shia Tell Tehran to Kiss their Bhurkas Goodbye!
So while the leftist losers continue to spew forth their mantra of loser propaganda, Iraqis are coming alive in freedom!
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juandos.. (thumbsup)
Joshua..
excerpts:
[In the streets of the Shiite cities and neighborhoods, ordinary Iraqis describe the ayatollahs' meddling as the "poison from the East."]
[The scope of the Shiite opposition goes far beyond the 3 million signatories, because unlike petitions signed on the corners of K Street in Washington, these Iraqis and their families could very well pay with their blood for such a public and emphatic rebuke
of Tehran.
Last April in an opinion piece in the Boston Globe, Dr. Saleh al-Mutlaq, the head of the influential Iraqi Front for National Dialogue, and a member of the Iraqi Parliament, charged the al-Maliki government "was caving in to pressure from Iran to make life difficult for the MEK." He wrote that "the MEK people enjoy popular support inside Iraq, particularly in Diyala province, where they have worked to promote reconciliation between Sunni and Shiite communities."
The landmark declaration signed by three million Shiites also has
a clear message for Washington: Iraqi Shiites reject the false assertions of those who have been speaking on their behalf. They are telling Washington to stand firm and confront Iran's meddling, without fear of a Shiite backlash.]
i heart Iraq/is!! :)
great links, thanks!!
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There's a meme in the Cobb piece that really burns my shorts:
"More than a year on, the surge has produced large, if tenuous, gains."
Tenuous my rosy ass! The Iraqis have had a bellyful of what AQI and JAM have to offer, and are gripping the new dispensation and its opportunities with both hands. Note that the harder Maliki pushes those sh**-disturbers, the more popular he gets.
It never ceases to amaze me. The clueless fear mongering, left wingers who love to claim that because you are part of the percentage that approves of Bush's policy, some how you are wrong.
Do these left wingers not realize that it was a tiny percentage in Nazi Germany that opposed Hitler, yes about 20% or so? Do these simple and small minded Liberals not realize that for a long time in America, it was a small minority that opposed slavery (Republicans too).
Amazing that Liberals are so immature, that they are stuck in this popularity contests.
Liberals, I thought you were individuals able to think on your own? I thought you guys were not part of the masses? Hmmm....being that you are part of the majority that disapproves of President Bush, that certainly does make you part of the blind masses. So much for Liberals having the ability to think on their own.
Not to mention that if you truly believe that these polls are scientific or worth anything, you are beyond help.
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Anonymous @ 9:19 AM..
re: [it was a small minority that
opposed slavery (Republicans too).
The Racist History of the Democratic Party (2/04)
excerpts:
[Some called it the Civil War, others called it the War Between the States, but to the African Americans at that time, it was the War Between the Democrats and the Republicans over slavery. The Democrats gave their lives to expand it, Republican gave their lives to ban it.]
[Congressional records show it was Democrats that strongly opposed the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. These three Amendments were introduced by Republicans to abolish slavery, give citizenship to all African Americans born in the United States and, give Blacks the right to vote.]
[History reveals that it was three white persons that opposed the Democrat's racist practices who started the NAACP.]
RTWT!!
Reconstruction
WTWT!!
Wayne Perryman
DIXIE'S CENSORED SUBJECT.. BLACK SLAVE OWNERS
excerpt:
[According to federal census reports, on June 1, 1860 there were nearly 4.5 million Negroes in the United States, with fewer than four million of them living in the southern slaveholding states. Of the blacks residing in the South, 261,988 were not slaves. Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. The country's leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city.
To return to the census figures quoted above, this 28 percent is certainly impressive when compared to less than 1.4 percent of all American whites and less than 4.8 percent of southern whites. The statistics show that, when free, blacks disproportionately became slave masters.]
More Buried History: Black Slave Owners in the US
excerpt:
[In many instances, free black slave owners shared a similar view of slavery with their white counterparts. Slave owners of both races occasionally manumitted a trusted servant and in the same moment requested the sale of another slave. The act of freeing one or several slaves while others remained in bondage did not constitute a firm commitment against slavery, but a personal view which acknowledged that some slaves, through merit or hard work, deserved their freedom, while others were destined to be slaves until death.]
The Truth May Inconvenience Our Perceptions
excerpts:
[Indeed, I have a videotape of black historian, Dr. Edward Smith of American University in Washington D.C., in which he points out that at least 90,000 blacks served under arms in the Confederate armies. This long ignored, or silently suppressed fact is only now beginning to reach the public where it can help to alter our perceptions of the realities which existed in the Old South. It might be worth noting that in the Southern armies, black and white men were not segregated as they were in the Northern armies. They fought side by side with fellow Southerners. In support of this fact, perhaps you are not aware that the first military monument in Washington D.C. honoring black soldiers is in Arlington National Cemetery near the Custis-Lee Mansion. Erected in 1914 by Moses Ezekial, a Jewish Confederate who wanted to correctly portray the racial realities in the Southern armies, it clearly shows a black soldier marching in step with his white comrades in arms. It further portrays the trust that existed between them by depicting a black woman receiving a white soldier's child for protection as he is going off to war. Somehow, this Confederate monument is never pointed out on the usual tours that you'll get up there. Does anyone think they might know why?]
SLAVERY IN ISLAM
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ps: re bg @ 9:38 AM..
Muslim Black slavery - Islam slave history of Black Africa
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Not so fast.. Flagwaving patriots..
I've been reading about people living behind walled communities. I'm still reading about dozens dying in random bomb attacks. If YOU think that YOU could live under those conditons and call it a success, then you're a lying jackass.
No human being want s to live in a virtual prison or being a drop of a roulette ball chance from being blown to smitherrines.
Maybe you're calling it a success, because you're NOT including IRAQI deaths as part of the deduction to your declarative conclusion of success.
When Iraqis on't need the equivalent of a 21s century moat, or be incased in kevlar to increase their chances of ot beng one of the unlucky dozen or so in proximity of an exploding bomb, then I'll give you celebration of the propaganda-Surge a success.
Bugsy
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MNF
FJI
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