It is done... Obama performs a double twisting half reverse ganor... with a cherry on top, on Iraq.
Master Politician Barack Obama "refines" his politics, performs pivot.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall when Hillary reads this!
Barack Obama, on July 17, 2007:
The United States cannot use its military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn’t a good enough reason to keep U.S. forces there.Barack Obama, April 16, 2008:
Charles Gibson: "And, Senator Obama, your campaign manager, David Plouffe, said, 'When he is' -- this is talking about you - 'When he is elected president, we will be out of Iraq in 16 months at the most. There should be no confusion about that.' So you'd give the same rock-hard pledge, that no matter what the military commanders said, you would give the order to bring them home?"Barack Obama, July 3, 2008:
Obama: "Because the commander-in-chief sets the mission, Charlie. That's not the role of the generals. And one of the things that's been interesting about the president's approach lately has been to say, 'Well, I'm just taking cues from General Petraeus.' Well, the president sets the mission. The general and our troops carry out that mission."
“I’ve always said that the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability. That assessment has not changed. And when I go to Iraq and have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I’m sure I’ll have more information and will continue to refine my policies.”Is anyone else wondering what the Clinton's are thinking right about now?
UPDATE-- Obama does a side-twister backwards flop.
AP link:
The Illinois senator called a second news conference of the day Thursday to address the GOP criticism of him and resulting questions about where he stands on Iraq.And, with this latest statement, Obama back flips.
He said what he learns from military commanders on his upcoming trip to Iraq will refine his policy but "not the 16-month timetable" for withdrawing U.S. troops from combat in Iraq. He said what he learns could affect how many residual troops might be needed to train the Iraqi army and police.
This guy is hard to keep up with.
UPDATE: The McCain Campaign responds to Obama's latest nonsense:
"Since announcing his campaign in 2007, the central premise of Barack Obama's candidacy was his commitment to begin withdrawing American troops from Iraq immediately. He campaigned in Iowa, New Hampshire and across the country reaffirming this pledge to the American people.Brilliant!
"Today, Barack Obama reversed that position proving once again that his words do not matter. He has now adopted John McCain's position that we cannot risk the progress we have made in Iraq by beginning to withdraw our troops immediately without concern for conditions on the ground. There is nothing wrong with changing your mind when the facts on the ground dictate it. Indeed, the facts have changed because of the success of the surge that John McCain advocated for years and Barack Obama opposed in a position that put politics ahead of country.
"Now that Barack Obama has changed course and proven his past positions to be just empty words, we would like to congratulate him for accepting John McCain's principled stand on this critical national security issue. If he had visited Iraq sooner or actually had a one-on-one meeting with General Petraeus, he would have changed his position long ago."
Obama is nothing but a cheap politician.
Let the better salesman win?
ReplyDeleteCoalition is finally winning in Iraq, it'd be a liability to stay in "anti-war camp" if progress continues till autumn... so salesman chose to CHANGE his policy.
Obama's word is no good, his signature is no good, his character is no good, he is just plain no good for America.
ReplyDeleteFurther proof that the MSM is insanely pro-war, that the MSM interpreted Obama's remarks as favoring an eternal presence in Iraq when he doesn't.
ReplyDeleteAnd since most Americans still want out ASAP, it would be very strange if Obama threw his lot in with those who want to bring victory to Iran, instead of doing the only thing that is right for America and Iraq: withdrawing American troops.
McCain wants America to be defeated by staying in Iraq forever; Obama wants to deny Iran a victory by pulling out troops ASAP, thereby undercutting the pro-Iran "government" and ending an occupation that has made Iraq worse off than under Saddam.
I don't respect Obama much after his flip-flop on Bush's illegal wiretapping of Americans, but he's clever enough not to side with the right, that wants us to stay in Iraq just so Iran can win.
Is anyone else wondering what the Clinton's are thinking right about now?
ReplyDeleteSame thing they have been thinking. It has been obvious to all except the Obamaniacs that Obama is pure Chicago sleaze. He is one who will use anyone and do anything to achieve power, knowing that once he does he will never have to be held accountable for it.
Reading assignment for the day...
Obama and McCain
This year, none of us has that luxury. While all sorts of gushing is going on in the media, and posturing is going on in politics, the biggest national sponsor of terrorism in the world-- Iran-- is moving step by step toward building a nuclear bomb.
The point when they get that bomb will be the point of no return. Iran's nuclear bomb will be the terrorists' nuclear bomb-- and they can make 9/11 look like child's play.
All the options that are on the table right now will be swept off the table forever. Our choices will be to give in to whatever the terrorists demand-- however outrageous those demands might be-- or to risk seeing American cities start disappearing in radioactive mushroom clouds.
All the things we are preoccupied with today, from the price of gasoline to health care to global warming, will suddenly no longer matter.
*snip*
There is one big difference between now and the 1930s. Although the West's lack of military preparedness and its political irresolution led to three solid years of devastating losses to Nazi Germany and imperial Japan, nevertheless when all the West's industrial and military forces were finally mobilized, the democracies were able to turn the tide and win decisively.
But you cannot lose a nuclear war for three years and then come back. You cannot even sustain the will to resist for three years when you are first broken down morally by threats and then devastated by nuclear bombs.
Our one window of opportunity to prevent this will occur within the term of whoever becomes President of the United States next January.
At a time like this, we do not have the luxury of waiting for our ideal candidate or of indulging our emotions by voting for some third party candidate to show our displeasure-- at the cost of putting someone in the White House who is not up to the job.
Senator John McCain has been criticized in this column many times. But, when all is said and done, Senator McCain has not spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America.
On the contrary, he has paid a huge price for resisting our enemies, even when they held him prisoner and tortured him. The choice between him and Barack Obama should be a no-brainer.
RAND study on the economic costs and consequences of terrorist attack on Los Angeles, Calif.
Read the whole thing-all 72 pages.
Senator Obama, collaborator with haters, crooks, and traitors of all stripes, is a lying low-down liar before he is anything else. Just like a cheap skillet, the teflon is wearing off. What flakes off of Obama is like what flakes off of that cheap chipped sklllet: unfit for human consumption.
ReplyDeleteIndependence Day tomorrow. Someone please check the beaches to see if the ocean has now ceased to rise. Somebody else please check the hospitals to see if the sick are now receiving care. Barry Barack Hussein Obama is such a maroon. God, save us from this cult, and bless America.
Independence Day 2007 in Iraq...
ReplyDeleteJimmi Hendrix rose for a brief moment in the desert of Iraq thru Charlie Company Commanding Office CPT Buddy Ferris.
Lights and sounds, Paratroopers and special forces.
Freedom Fireworks Obama Cannot Change
Paratroopers from Charlie Company, 2-505 Parachute Infantry Regiment (82nd Airborne) celebrate the 4th of July, 2007 at Patrol Base Olson in Samarra, Iraq.
ht: hotair
I wonder whose playin the tune tonight? And if they're celebrating liberty with our new Iraqi allies new found liberties?
God Bless em, 10,000 miles from home.
I wish all of his flip flops were true changes in policy.
ReplyDeleteHow much do you want to bet that Wright will be sleeping the Lincoln bedroom while Iraq is abandoned to Iran and Bin Laden?
More reading material, and it is a must read!
ReplyDeleteI thought the GOP was the dumb party
Try to choose candidates with no connections to people who like to blow stuff up!
Try to admit when the stuff your candidate did earlier failed. You can’t dress up the pig. If he owned a baseball team and it failed, it failed. If he put together low-income housing and the project failed, it failed. Truth is humility. It’s also a lot quicker to move on from.
Try to pay your convention bills in a timely manner. It makes people believe you can run economies.
Don’t let your candidate make a defensive-sounding speech about how patriotic he is. If you have to say it, you’re not convincing. And yes, it matters.
Try to choose a candidates with no connections to money-lender issues when some Americans are losing their homes due to less-attractive mortgage deals.
Try not to keep reminding voters that your opponent is a war veteran who was tortured and held captive for five years, and then saying it’s no big deal. Just don’t. Partly because it keeps people talking about it, and because it also makes all of you look very small.
Read the whole thing.
There's an old saying, a turkey can't fly and a snake can't walk, but a politician can gobble and and with forked tongue squawk.
ReplyDeleteor sumpin like that...
He's a typical sleeze created by yet another typical sleeze puppet creator in David Axelrod. And they will slink, slip, slander, slack, schlopp, schlock, slur, sling, slight, sneak, snit, snork, snark, schnizzele and schmooze anyone with two, three, and four different answers depending upon the time of day or audience.
They'll schmeck ya too with a whole bunch of schmula when no one is looking. Oh and smear. Fear the smear or be the smear, create the false smear and be a victim of unintended consequences as in, that's not the "Smurf" I use to know and throw them under the bus.
He has stated endlessly during his nomination campaign across the badlands of bitter America that he "will end the war in 2009."
Schlemiel, Schlimazel, Hasenpfeffer stew, Obama is a little Lenny, but more Squiggy to me and you. He'll sell his grandmama down the river for fame and fortune too. That's no wabbit I am smellin, I think it's snakeskin stew.
In the end, integrity is thrown overboard for one aim, and any means necessary to win.
Fish outta water, flippin on the shores, trying to evolve little feetsies, but the informmation is deformed. So flippety flop fish, lizard legless mutation. But don't forget to breath in your miracale graduation from fin to forearm formation. Walk little fishy, walk, in a few hundred millions years you'll talk, and tell us all how to live like the great fishy ancestors before you that swam and swim, that never came on land, but decided it was better thru careful thought, the ocean is much bigger than the land this brother now walks.
Chuckles.
I think there's a typo when you refer to July 17 2008.
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Getting this Obama guy's opinion on any subject is like playing "as the post turtle spins".
ReplyDeleteHere's what you won't ever, ever get from Jimmycrap Hoftwad: the full story. Courtesy of Steve Benen:
ReplyDeleteThe past couple of weeks have been especially difficult when it comes to McCain flip-flops.
* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.
* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.
* McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
* McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)
Wait, I’m not done with the last two weeks yet...
* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.
* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”
* McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.
And these come after these other reversals from April and May:
* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.
* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.
* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.
* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.
And these are the flip-flops I’ve noticed earlier:
* McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”
* McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
* McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.
* In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.
* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.
* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.
* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.
* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.
* McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.
* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.
* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
* McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”
* McCain said he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”
* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.
Hope your little pinhead doesn't explode with the strain of processing so many facts, Jimmycrap. I know how hard it is for you to deal with the real world.
Assuming Meathead (or crapforbrains) actually has a brain, it probably rattles around in his head like a dried pea in an empty boxcar, even if he is a pinhead.
ReplyDeleteThe last thing in the world Iran wants is 150,000 US Troops next door in Iraq. Withdraw too soon and Iran wins.
ReplyDeletedave,
ReplyDeletemeathead is our resident Obamaparrot. He comes in squaks alot, becomes generally annoying in that fingernails on the chalkboard kind of way, drops his load of shite then flies away before someone bludgeons him. He is the poster child for the "educated and intelligent" Obamamniac/moonbat.
You will note that he uses nothing but the finest Obamaniac/moonbat debating styles in order to try to "prove" his points. These are debating styles that most of us left on the playground before we got into double digits. Tonight he is using one of his favorite debating styles. The "Im' rubber-you're glue" one. meathead truly is a mental lightweight and emotionally retarded.
Like a small child that he is he does not see that all his spamming does is make him look like a consummate fool. I am guessing that he doesn't mind because he is so desperate for attention that he will do anything to get it.
Barrack Obama hasn't clue one on how to handle issues of national security or foreign policy. He should try being more consistent.
ReplyDeleteWelcome to politics 101.
ReplyDeleteNow that the primary is over, Obama must reposition himself as a centrist if he wants to win the general election.
McCain was already a centrist however he needs to move more to the right to mobilize his base.
I understand that many Obama supporters who were in favor of bringing the troops home are going to be disenchanted however it was always an undefendable position. Especially when Iraq turned around.
Obama has to change or he will wind up just looking silly on Iraq. You can't win an election without the support of the moderate swing voters.
Change?
Change is just a campaign slogan.