Comments on Gateway Pundit: More Hurricane Katrina: Folklore vs. Fact

It depends what you are measuring "worst" disaster...

2008-08-14T09:48:00.000-07:00

It depends what you are measuring "worst" disaster by... Katrina is said to be the worst disaster by many sources in terms of monetary damages (not in deaths). Maybe this is where the confusion stems from.

Cleaned of Spam 9-13-2006

2006-09-13T15:55:00.000-07:00

Cleaned of Spam 9-13-2006

Honestly I do not know where you get off saying wh...

2006-04-18T02:43:00.000-07:00

Honestly I do not know where you get off saying what is fact or fiction, obviously you don't know all the facts, because there where babies that died in the Dome. There was a mother holding her twin babies and they thought the babies were sleep but they were dead! What do you know obviously nothing, because you probably didn't even experience any of this, you’re just a critic like the rest of the world and not doing anything to help!

Bear Myth Buster .. Sounds like your media sources...

2005-10-30T14:49:00.000-08:00

Bear Myth Buster .. Sounds like your media sources were not actually there nor where they speaking with the evacuees?? Your Myth Buster Comments are highly questionable and suspect to a biased agenda .. what's your agenda. Wha don't you ask resident's of the 9th Ward what Happened?

Is it facts? Answer please. ...

2005-10-27T09:16:00.000-07:00

Is it facts? Answer please.

You damn right. About time people stopped bitching...

2005-10-14T22:43:00.000-07:00

You damn right. About time people stopped bitching and started accepting a little responsibility. Liberals should learn that just because you don't like the president, does'nt mean that everything is his fault.

Regarding the Stafford Act, I assumed that all it ...

2005-10-01T22:18:00.000-07:00

Regarding the Stafford Act, I assumed that all it took for the National Guard to be implemented was direction from the Gov. and didn't mean to imply that the President had to delcare a national disaster.

As for the reports of people shooting at helicopters--according to my son, who was in N.O. with the 82nd, that did take place, but not necessarily for the reasons imagined. At least in some cases, people firing in the direction of helicopters in an effort to get their attention--sort of saying "come get me off this roof or else."
Obviously a bad idea, but people can do strange things under duress.

The official investigation into the levee disaster...

2005-09-30T13:58:00.000-07:00

The official investigation into the levee disaster has started - or has it? My post, On the Levees of New Orleans, Update 19 has been updated with news and my recommendations.

Uhm, Andrew hit in 1992, not 2002. :X

2005-09-30T10:59:00.000-07:00

Uhm, Andrew hit in 1992, not 2002. :X

Awsome post. Thanks for doing your homework for u...

2005-09-29T18:46:00.000-07:00

Awsome post. Thanks for doing your homework for us!

Funny, the ones I heard trumpeting the murder, may...

2005-09-29T15:13:00.000-07:00

Funny, the ones I heard trumpeting the murder, mayhem and shooting-at-helicopters stories loudest were Hannity and Co.

As to the Federal Government response. Some of the...

2005-09-29T13:25:00.000-07:00

As to the Federal Government response. Some of the earliest images I saw of the flooding in NOLA was of Coast Guard Choppers picking people off of roofs. the last time I checked the Coast Guard is part of the Federal Government.

Tom

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9507503/

2005-09-29T12:40:00.000-07:00

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9507503/

Here is another interesting bit of information. I...

2005-09-29T12:39:00.000-07:00

Here is another interesting bit of information. I like to call it bad, and unethical contracting as it is a waste of taxpayer dollars that could have been utilized in different and better ways to help people.

folklore: A bloated Elvis Pressley is dead.fact: T...

2005-09-29T12:01:00.000-07:00

folklore: A bloated Elvis Pressley is dead.
fact: Teddy Kennedy is Elvis

Most people that commit crimes are black. Look at ...

2005-09-29T10:44:00.000-07:00

Most people that commit crimes are black. Look at the prisons. On an average of most prisons over 70% are black where as only a reported 20% of the nation is black.

To follow up on the comments on the Stafford Act. ...

2005-09-29T07:04:00.000-07:00

To follow up on the comments on the Stafford Act. There seems to be the underlying assumption that the National Guard can't act until there is a federal disaster declaration.

The Guard within any state has two chains of command and can be brought onto state active duty by state authority. One of the overriding reasons for doing this is that Guard units on state active duty *CAN* perform police functions without violating posse comitatus. And logistically, they are a lot closer to the disaster.

In the 89 quake in SF, the Guard was brought onto state active duty in the very beginning. And the request for federal assistance went out as soon as the ground stopped shaking.

The usual reluctance to bring Guard units on state active duty is budgetary - the state has to pay, at least until there is a federal declaration, at which point there is some level of reimbursement.

John - Operations Officer, 6th Army, Presidio of SF, 1989

Excellent job of collating the facts.

2005-09-29T05:35:00.000-07:00

Excellent job of collating the facts.

Good Round Up!

2005-09-29T04:18:00.000-07:00

Good Round Up!

~ IN GOV'T WE TRUST ~ In 1927, a hurricane more s...

2005-09-29T00:32:00.000-07:00

~ IN GOV'T WE TRUST ~

In 1927, a hurricane more severe than Katrina hit New Orleans and caused greater damage.

The amount of aid provided by government?

Absolutely none. (The army did loan New Orleans some tents and camping supplies, but later sued for reimbursement.)

Today government commits 60 billion dollars amid bitter complaints it didn't do more sooner.

What changed?

80 years ago we believed government's duty was to protect "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" and our duty to be self-reliant.

Today we expect government to provide "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"; something no government anywhere has ever done successfully long-term.

Nor will ours.

Political Teen has the video of Governor Blanco he...

2005-09-28T19:47:00.000-07:00

Political Teen has the video of Governor Blanco herself saying that she had not requested the national guard.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2005/09/game-set-match.html

From Fema:The Stafford Act (§401) requires that: “...

2005-09-28T18:32:00.000-07:00

From Fema:

The Stafford Act (§401) requires that: “All requests
for a declaration by the President that a major disaster exists shall be made by the Governor of the affected State.”

As part of the request, the Governor must take appropriate action under State law and direct execution
of the State’s emergency plan.

As to Mayors:
A mayor or city or county manager, as a jurisdiction’s chief executive, is responsible for the public safety and welfare of the people of that jurisdiction. The Local
Chief Executive Officer:
■ Is responsible for coordinating local resources to address the full spectrum of actions to prevent,
prepare for, respond to, and recover from incidents involving all hazards including terrorism, natural
disasters, accidents, and other contingencies;
■ Dependent upon State and local law, has extraordinary powers to suspend local laws and ordinances, such as to establish a curfew, direct evacuations, and, in coordination with the local
health authority, to order a quarantine;
■ Provides leadership and plays a key role in communicating to the public, and in helping people, businesses, and organizations cope with the consequences of any type of domestic incident within the jurisdiction;
■ Negotiates and enters into mutual aid agreements with other jurisdictions to facilitate resource-sharing; and
■ Requests State and, if necessary, Federal assistance through the Governor of the State when the jurisdiction’s capabilities have been exceeded or exhausted.

Saturday, 2 days prior to the hurricane, the mayor...

2005-09-28T17:36:00.000-07:00

Saturday, 2 days prior to the hurricane, the mayor asks President Bush to declare a State of emergency, allowing FEMA to get involved. Later that day, Blanco calls Bush, saying "Mr. President, we need your help. We need everything you've got." Bush later assures her that "help is on the way.""

I imagine there were troops there already. But it was on Thursday, that 30,000 Guardsmen are ordered to go there, but many don't arrive till days later.
http://www.factcheck.org/article348.html

Homefront Six,Do you have a source for your claim ...

2005-09-28T17:02:00.000-07:00

Homefront Six,

Do you have a source for your claim that the Governor waited until Tuesday? That is contrary to what I had heard.

To : RoveSpin anonymousRe : the Federal government...

2005-09-28T16:19:00.000-07:00

To : RoveSpin anonymous
Re : the Federal government's "responsibility"

Obviously you were not paying attention in Civics class. The CONSTITUTION prevents the Federal government from stepping in to help until it is ASKED TO DO SO BY THE GOVERNOR (go check out Posse Commitatus if you're still confused). And Gov. Blanco waited until TUESDAY morning to send that request.

Unless there was insurrection (which there was NOT), the government's hands were tied. Of course, now that the MSM and all of you other idiots have bitched enough, President Bush is looking to do away with Posse Commitatus. Great. Thanks y'all.