tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post4092328528660403112..comments2008-04-21T09:47:29.607-07:00Comments on Gateway Pundit: Brrrr... Frosty Snake Oil Salesman Admits to Ca$hi...Gateway Pundithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17121297616038595622noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-13103872698831730322008-04-21T09:47:00.000-07:002008-04-21T09:47:00.000-07:002008-04-21T09:47:00.000-07:00Regarding NASA/Goddard data and surface stations i...Regarding NASA/Goddard data and surface stations in general check out this site:<BR/><BR/>http://www.surfacestations.org/<BR/><BR/>Lots of data and photographs.<BR/><BR/>The locations can cause several degrees of error on the high side (sites on pavement, near air conditioners, etc...)<BR/><BR/>DaveDaveHhttp://www.synthstuff.com/mt/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-10501286866043991812008-04-21T09:40:00.000-07:002008-04-21T09:40:00.000-07:002008-04-21T09:40:00.000-07:00The NASA/Goddard chart is a joke.It is based on hi...The NASA/Goddard chart is a joke.<BR/>It is based on historical temperature recording stations.<BR/><BR/>These were once located at out of the way places but urban growth have put them firmly into areas of urban heat islands.<BR/><BR/>Check out this post for one example:<BR/><BR/>http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/09/how_not_to_measure_temperature_29.html<BR/><BR/>This myth is BUSTED...DaveHhttp://www.synthstuff.com/mt/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-72854081654830074422008-04-16T10:09:00.000-07:002008-04-16T10:09:00.000-07:002008-04-16T10:09:00.000-07:00Does not look good for the AGW crowd. They were l...Does not look good for the AGW crowd. They were laughing their butts off when they inflated temperatures in 1998. The problem now is every year after that is down and going down. <BR/><BR/>2008 is going to be down due to the first 4 months. 2009 is also going to be in the tank.<BR/><BR/>I just love it when a good scam starts to fall apart.<BR/><BR/>http://icecap.us/images/uploads/SmoothedMonthlyCO2vsTemps.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-27143984435234298462008-04-14T02:34:00.000-07:002008-04-14T02:34:00.000-07:002008-04-14T02:34:00.000-07:00"Over the last 10 years temperatures have not rise...<EM>"Over the last 10 years temperatures have not risen. They have gone down."</EM><BR/><BR/>Anonymous does what most wingnuts do when then facts do not support their mythology: It lies. Global mean temperatures have, in fact, <A HREF="http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/04/04/drudge-sells-false-headlines/" REL="nofollow">continued to trend upward over the past ten years</A>.meatbrainhttp://thinkingmeat.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-56016861725561724502008-04-13T19:55:00.000-07:002008-04-13T19:55:00.000-07:002008-04-13T19:55:00.000-07:00This is not a question whether some flawed chart b...This is not a question whether some flawed chart based on faulty temperature measuring sites indicate GW. It is whether 1/10,000 th more CO2 in the atmosphere has caused the GW.<BR/><BR/>Over the last 10 years temperatures have not risen. They have gone down. How can the all powerful, pollutant and planet killer CO2 be so easily defeated.<BR/><BR/>Case Closed. AGW theory is dead.<BR/><BR/>Time to make up a new theory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-17080699260996902812008-04-13T17:09:00.000-07:002008-04-13T17:09:00.000-07:002008-04-13T17:09:00.000-07:00"Five year graph...ROFLMAO!..."juandos was also af...<EM>"Five year graph...ROFLMAO!..."</EM><BR/><BR/>juandos was also afraid to look at the graph. Is every one of Hoftwad's syncophants a sniveling coward?<BR/><BR/>Who can muster the courage to answer a simple question: Is the trend on the <A HREF="http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/04/04/drudge-sells-false-headlines/" REL="nofollow">graph of the five-year running mean temperature</A> rising or falling?meatbrainhttp://thinkingmeat.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-50563633069534579732008-04-13T16:45:00.000-07:002008-04-13T16:45:00.000-07:002008-04-13T16:45:00.000-07:00Well its apparent that the brain damaged meatwad c...Well its apparent that the brain damaged <B>meatwad</B> can't and won't deal with reality...<BR/><BR/>Five year graph...ROFLMAO!...<BR/><BR/>Yet the inbred was nice enough to post a link to torpedo his own inane beliefs...<BR/><BR/>So <B>meatwad</B>, tell us which global warming gas is highest by volume in the atmosphere... Curious minds are looking for more entertainment...<BR/><BR/>Stupid is as stupid does... Just ask the <B>meatwad</B>...<BR/><BR/>(<I>no gray matter was exercised in the <B>meatwad</B>'s postings</I>...juandoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01656743466655157652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-51850585288879539362008-04-13T09:39:00.000-07:002008-04-13T09:39:00.000-07:002008-04-13T09:39:00.000-07:00"Five years doesn't mean jack as far as global cli...<EM>"Five years doesn't mean jack as far as global climate goes."</EM><BR/><BR/>So what we have learned is that nahanni is afraid to even look at the graph I referenced -- since if it had, it would know that the graph in question covers far more than five years.<BR/><BR/>Is there anyone here willing to answer this question: Is the trend on the <A HREF="http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/04/04/drudge-sells-false-headlines/" REL="nofollow">graph of the five-year running mean temperature</A> rising or falling?meatbrainhttp://thinkingmeat.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-58015633089722947732008-04-13T09:21:00.000-07:002008-04-13T09:21:00.000-07:002008-04-13T09:21:00.000-07:00Five years doesn't mean jack as far as global clim...Five years doesn't mean jack as far as global climate goes. That is like a second to us. Of course if you actually <I><B>knew</I></B> something about the subject instead of just reciting verses from "The Gospel according to St. Algor of the Church of Gaia" then you would understand that. <BR/><BR/>Now if you actually want to learn something about the subject you can start <A HREF="http://home.earthlink.net/~ponderthemaundercf/id12.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>. <I>Ponder the Maunder was an extra credit project for Honors Earth Science, Portland High School, by Kristen Byrnes of Portland Maine.<BR/>This report is a comprehensive look at the global warming issue without financial or political bias. It uses the most updated information provided by scientists and researchers and interjects common sense, an important component missing from the global warming debate.</I> She did an excellent job in researching the subject.<BR/><BR/>So when you actually have a working knowledge of the subject instead of parroting Algor then come back and discuss the subject. Until then you can scurry back to the fever swamps by the river Denial where you and your ilk reside.Nahannihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01794735154506829829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-19653041844113232122008-04-13T05:23:00.000-07:002008-04-13T05:23:00.000-07:002008-04-13T05:23:00.000-07:00Tell us, nahanni: is the trend on the graph of the...Tell us, nahanni: is the trend on the <A HREF="http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/04/04/drudge-sells-false-headlines/" REL="nofollow">graph of the five-year running mean temperature</A> rising or falling?meatbrainhttp://thinkingmeat.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-24846627326209797662008-04-13T04:42:00.000-07:002008-04-13T04:42:00.000-07:002008-04-13T04:42:00.000-07:00meathead is the poster child for the following quo...meathead is the poster child for the following quote from <BR/><A HREF="http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2008/04/consequences-of-denial.html" REL="nofollow">Dr. Sanity</A>.<BR/><BR/><I>As the real world presses in on them, their voices have become more shrill and hysterical; their rage is escalating out of control. No longer do most of them even bother to argue their points logically; they simply loudly denounce any idea or person who threatens their ideology; or deliberately and with the ruthless finesse of all tyrants and thugs, simply attempt to silence all dissenting opinions. (See the style of one of their heroes for an example of this)<BR/><BR/>9/11 did not wake them up; rather it forced them to openly move toward what they have supported surreptitiously all along--the elimination of free speech in the name of political correctness and multiculturalism; a dictatorship where the pseudo-intellectual, politically correct priesthood rule; and complete control over the lives of others (for their own good, of course!).<BR/><BR/>Since their objectives happen to parallel those of the Islamic terrorists, they care not that their behavior enables and encourages the terrorist's agenda. They blithely denounce America and the principles of freedom and democracy out of one side of their mouth, while remaining convinced that their actions are patriotic and are representative of "true" American values.</I>Nahannihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01794735154506829829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-69602663968624199522008-04-13T03:58:00.000-07:002008-04-13T03:58:00.000-07:002008-04-13T03:58:00.000-07:00NOTICE: Jimmy Hoftwad keeps removing this comment ...NOTICE: Jimmy Hoftwad keeps removing this comment because it states some inconvenient facts about global warming. HE IS AFRAID OF THE FACTS.<BR/><BR/><STRONG>Jim Hoft is a liar, and most of his posts on this blog are devoted to spreading lies.</STRONG><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Jim Hoft is a liar, and most of his posts on this blog are devoted to spreading lies.</STRONG><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Jim Hoft is a liar, and most of his posts on this blog are devoted to spreading lies.</STRONG><BR/><BR/>'<A HREF="http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/archive/2008/01/15/did-global-warming-stop-in-1998-jim-hansen-says-no.aspx" REL="nofollow">"Global warming stopped in 1998" has become a recent mantra of those who wish to deny the reality of human-caused global warming.</A> The continued rapid increase of the five-year running mean temperature exposes this assertion as nonsense. In reality, global temperature jumped two standard deviations above the trend line in 1998 because the “El Nino of the century” coincided with the calendar year, but there has been no lessening of the underlying warming trend.' <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/04/04/drudge-sells-false-headlines/" REL="nofollow">A graph of the five-year running mean temperature</A> makes it crystal clear that global temperatures continue to rise.<BR/><BR/><STRONG>Jim Hoft is a liar, and most of his posts on this blog are devoted to spreading lies.</STRONG><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Jim Hoft is a liar, and most of his posts on this blog are devoted to spreading lies.</STRONG><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Jim Hoft is a liar, and most of his posts on this blog are devoted to spreading lies.</STRONG>meatbrainhttp://thinkingmeat.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-76298227209157481422008-04-12T16:46:00.000-07:002008-04-12T16:46:00.000-07:002008-04-12T16:46:00.000-07:00"You will note that over the 4+ billion year histo...<EM>"You will note that over the 4+ billion year history of this planet that the mean temperature is much higher then today."</EM><BR/><BR/>That's a known argument of the denialists -- and <A HREF="http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period.htm" REL="nofollow">it does not hold water</A>.<BR/><BR/>Tell us, nahanni: is the trend on the <A HREF="http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/04/04/drudge-sells-false-headlines/" REL="nofollow">graph of the five-year running mean temperature</A> rising or falling?meatbrainhttp://thinkingmeat.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-21462830121134712752008-04-12T16:31:00.000-07:002008-04-12T16:31:00.000-07:002008-04-12T16:31:00.000-07:00Here is a handy little graph for you.You will note...<A HREF="http://www.scotese.com/images/globaltemp.jpg" REL="nofollow">Here is a handy little graph for you.</A><BR/><BR/>You will note that over the 4+ <I>billion</I> year history of this planet that the mean temperature is much higher then today.<BR/><BR/>You will also not that the times when the temperature is the coldest is when most of the "die offs" in Earth's history occurred.<BR/><BR/>The only constant in the climate of the Earth is change. The mechanism at work here is too large for any life form on the planet to affect it on a global scale. Well, if you really want to see "climate change" brought about by the hand of man blow about 100 miles out of the Isthmus of Panama. That should be enough to change the ocean currents.<BR/><BR/>Only fools and the agenda driven believe in AGW.Nahannihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01794735154506829829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-32425962796960276642008-04-12T14:45:00.000-07:002008-04-12T14:45:00.000-07:002008-04-12T14:45:00.000-07:00Tell us, Amy: is the trend on the graph of the fiv...Tell us, Amy: is the trend on the <A HREF="http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/04/04/drudge-sells-false-headlines/" REL="nofollow">graph of the five-year running mean temperature</A> rising or falling?<BR/><BR/>And tell us, Amy: Whom do you mean when you claim that "the only ones standing by it... are those who have to"? Can you name specific names, and be precise about why these people "have to" do what they do?meatbrainhttp://thinkingmeat.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-79366321084777574532008-04-12T14:09:00.000-07:002008-04-12T14:09:00.000-07:002008-04-12T14:09:00.000-07:00I'm sure Gateway is "afraid" of your inconvenient ...I'm sure Gateway is "afraid" of your inconvenient facts. Global warming as a traumatic threat has been debunked. The only ones standing by it as science are those who have to.Amy Proctorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10469656508554068619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-57544360240319299332008-04-12T11:57:00.000-07:002008-04-12T11:57:00.000-07:002008-04-12T11:57:00.000-07:00First of all, THANK YOU for removing MeatBrain's c...First of all, THANK YOU for removing MeatBrain's comments. <BR/><BR/>Second of all, COOL! I love snow. It has been lightly snowing here at Ft. Leavenworth today. We're just outside Kansas City. Again, COOL!<BR/><BR/>Thirdly, I did this story last week on the <A HREF="http://amyproctor.squarespace.com/blog/2008/4/5/new-study-shows-polar-bear-extinction-fears-groundless.html" REL="nofollow">New Study Shows Polar Bear Extinction Fears Groundless</A>. A new study commissioned by the U.S. government showed that <B>climate forecasting efforts and were unable to find a single forecast of global warming that was based on scientific methods. Their audit of the GCM climate modelers’ procedures properly followed only 13% of the relevant forecasting principles and some of the contraventions of principles were critical.</B><BR/><BR/>I also found a study that shows <A HREF="http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html" REL="nofollow">72.2% of scientists report a “disbelief in God”</A> My summation is that environmentalism has become a religion with scientists as the Magisterium, their faulty data as their catechism and politicians and activists as their fundamentalist preachers. Everyone needs God, but the scientific and secular communities are looking to Mother Earth rather than a divine Creator. Like the rest of us, scientists cannot separate their religious beliefs from coloring their every day lives. The problem is that, in cases like global warming and evolution, they allow their agenda to drive their data and not vice versa.<BR/><BR/>Food for thought.Amy Proctorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10469656508554068619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8852689.post-91612077009693348682008-04-12T10:05:00.000-07:002008-04-12T10:05:00.000-07:002008-04-12T10:05:00.000-07:00Great post - thanks for all the research!Great post - thanks for all the research!Kellynoreply@blogger.com