UPDATE: (10:30 PM CST) Senator Menendez (D-NJ) is up now.
His message is clear:
Michelle Malkin has running-mouth updates.
The democratic surrender marathon is off and running...
Democrats pulled out the cots and the cameras and are going to show America that they are committed to cutting and running no matter how things are going on the ground!
Democrats prove again that when it comes to surrender- They can't be beat!
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nev., right, followed by Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., center, and Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill will lead the charge to retreat. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)
The all-night political stunt is running live now on C-SPAN2.
What a disgrace!
Is it any wonder that this democratic-led Congress has the lowest approval ratings on record?
Would some surrender-crat please explain this: The senate today passed a motion (Cornyn Amendment):
"to express the sense of the Senate that it is in the national security interest of the United States that Iraq not become a failed state and a safe haven for terrorists"-Via Michelle Malkin.
How does surrendering in Iraq at this time keep Al Qaeda, Iran, Syria, insurgents, Baathists,... from taking over?
Is this making any sense to anyone? Seriously?
Update: BG passes on the angelic demeanor of Senator Reid.
Captain's Quarters notes John McCain's valor in confronting Harry Reid on the consequences of his actions.
NonParty Politics has Boxer's rant.
Update: Senator Joe Lieberman tells it like it is. His integrity is ever more appealing- "Some have said this is the only amendment with teeth- But, who does it bite?... This amendment mandates a retreat no matter what the conditions are on the ground... This is an amendment to embrace defeat in Iraq."
Joe Lieberman shines on the Senate floor tonight.
Update: Jules Crittenden- "...Sooner or later, the Democrats will have to ask themselves whether they are doing themselves any favors by repeatedly demonstrating how impotent and irrelevant they are, when even the anti-war press is increasingly forced to acknowledge progress in the field."
UPDATE: Black Group Calls Senate Leaders "Hypocrites"
UPDATE: Democrats failed to gather enough votes today to cut and run from Iraq. ...Sleep well.
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ReplyDeletepathetic clowns (most all of them, and especially the so called Dem "leadership").. (thumbsdown)
and i'm not a poll reader, don't believe in them.. but i did notice that as low as the numbers are for all.. Bush's are going up as steadily as the Dems are going down, perhaps the tide is changing in the right direction.. (thumbsup)
on the light side, HT : Pajamas Media..
HOLY BWAHAHAHAHAHMAN!!
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ReplyDeletebtw.. Schumer, Durbin & others have trained long & hard for this shacking up mission.. :D
video tour..
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ReplyDeleteF--K Snowe..
way to go McCain!!
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ReplyDeleteGo Orrin [he just lowered the boom, er, Hatch on Kerry's swoon, er, slatch]!! (thumbsup)
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Well its obvious that Dem libtards are incapable of feeling any sense of shame for publically acting like fools...
ReplyDeleteI wonder how many people recorded last night's nonsense for posterity?
Its always good to have some visual evidence of what the Dems are the party of the Seditious & Sleazy...
Hey bg, thanks for those links...
Better than rethugs who just want to feed the military industrial complex with blood and money with no real plan for success!
ReplyDeleteOh! oh!
ReplyDeleteWe have a, 'sniveling coward alert': "Better than rethugs who just want to feed the military industrial complex with blood and money with no real plan for success!"
Hmmm, funny how the whining libtards said the samething back in the early seventies...
Yet they still haven't been able to wash the blood of innocents off their collective hands ...
"Is it any wonder that this democratic-led Congress has the lowest approval ratings on record?"
ReplyDeleteDude, they have low approval ratings because they HAVEN'T stopped the war YET. Not because they are trying to.
You sir, are a hack engaged in collective mental masturbation with the rest of the 28%'ers out there. Have fun pleasuring yourselves while Americans die for your vanity.
Our presence is not helping the civil war in Iraq. Your blind allegiance to that piece of filth in the White House is destroying our beloved nation. Our National Guard troops do not belong there.
ReplyDeleteGotta love the brave anonymous poster. Comes in spouting the oh-so-typical childish LLL shinola.
ReplyDeleteBetter than rethugs who just want to feed the military industrial complex with blood and money with no real plan for success!
You really do have to get out of your parents basement more, hun.
Of course you have no idea of what the plan is because all you read is KosPravda. I have a little bit of news for you-the surge is working. That is why the Democrats are holding this freak show in the senate-they need to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory before their and your allies the Islamofascist get their ass kicked.
Of course it won't make much difference if your Democratic party fifth column and Jihadi hero allies get their way. You will be dead.
Dude, they have low approval ratings because they HAVEN'T stopped the war YET. Not because they are trying to.
No hun.
It is because the people see exactly who and what the Democratic party is now. The enemy within.
You sir, are a hack engaged in collective mental masturbation with the rest of the 28%'ers out there. Have fun pleasuring yourselves while Americans die for your vanity.
With this charming comment you automatically lose. it is so typical of the shite we have seen out of the LLL's over the past decade. You know that everything you stand for is wrong. You know that you can not defend your positions so you resort to feces flinging monkey mode.
You know that the Islamofascists that you idolize and give aid and comfort to are everything your ilk has stated you oppose.
You are everything you say you are against, and that dichotomy has broken your brain and turned you into a study in abnormal psychology. It has turned you into a paranoid schizophrenic.
You are a racist.
You are a misogynist.
You support totalitarianism.
You are against freedom and liberty.
You condone slavery.
You support the concept that children are little more then sex toys for men.
You support the execution of homosexuals.
You support the enslavement and mutilation of women.
You are against women having human rights-you support their being treated as possessions.
You are against freedom of speech.
You are against freedom of religion.
You are against freedom of expression.
You support death and destruction of western civilization. The very same civilization that allows you to come on to forums such as this and prove that old adage true, you know-the one that says "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool then to open it and remove all doubt.". The very same civilization that allows your parents to keep a blood sucking tick like you attached to their wallet while you sit in your parents basement swilling Mountain Dew.
So, brave anonymous poster, run back to the insane asylum over at Kos/Du/PuffHo/Bartcop before you get your poor breaking brain slapped so hard that you will be in the corner in a fetal position bawling your widdle eyes out.
Amateurs.
ReplyDeleteNo Dem can compare to Ronald "President Cut and Run" Reagan when it comes to running off with one's tail between their legs.
If we leave iraq now, we will look weak.
So, thousands of more american soldiers are just going to have to die for the GOP's vanity.
Bert
tommo said...
ReplyDeleteOur presence is not helping the civil war in Iraq. Your blind allegiance to that piece of filth in the White House is destroying our beloved nation. Our National Guard troops do not belong there.
Your blind allegiance to the Democratic party and it's Islamofascist/Marxist/Maoist allies will be the death of you.
BTW-You want to see a "piece of filth"? Take a look in the mirror.
All bow to nahanni, God of the Straw Men.
ReplyDeleteHow long have you been fighting in Iraq, nahanni?
Bert
Bert,
ReplyDeleteYou idiots really need to get a new set of talking points.
FYI-I have a total of 19 friends and relatives in the Gulf at the moment in all branches of the service. How many friends and relatives do you have there hun.
Now to address your use of the tired ol' LLL "Chickenhawk" shinola.
Bill Whittle does an excellent job of taking the clue bat to that one so I will quote him.
"CHICKENHAWKS
Let’s shag a few easy fly balls to warm up, shall we?
The Chickenhawk argument goes something like this: anyone who favors military action should not be taken seriously unless they themselves are willing to go and do the actual fighting. This particular piece of work is an anti-war crowd attempt to silence the debate by ruling that the other side is out of bounds for the duration. Like all ad hominem attacks, (argumentum ad hominem means “argument against the person”) it is an act of intellectual surrender. The person who employs an ad hominem attack is admitting they cannot win the debate on merit, and hope to chuck the entire thing out the window by attacking the messenger. This is a logical fallacy of the first order, because the messenger is not the message.
The messenger is not the message. That’s all you need to throw away the entire Chickenhawk response. But why stop there when this one is so much fun?
If you ever see this charge again, you may want to reflect that person’s own logical reasoning in the following fashion: You may not talk about education unless you are willing to become a teacher. You may not discuss poverty unless you yourself are willing to go and form a homeless shelter. How dare you criticize Congress unless you are willing to go out and get elected yourself? Your opinion on a National Health Care System is negated out of hand since you are unwilling to get a medical degree and open a clinic. And as far as your opinions regarding the Democratic Underground or The Huffington Post are concerned, well, you can just keep them to yourself, mister, unless you can produce an advanced degree in Abnormal Psychology and Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Using the internal reasoning behind the Chickenhawk argument means you cannot comment on, speak about or even hold an opinion on any subject that is not part of your paying day job. It is simple-minded and profoundly anti-democratic, which is why it so deeply appeals to those who sling it around the most.
But wait! There’s more!
If you accept the Chickenhawk argument – that only those actually willing to go and fight have a legitimate opinion on the subject of war – then that means that any decision to go to war must rest exclusively in the hands of the military. Is that what this person really wants? To abandon civilian control of the military? That’s the box they have trapped themselves in with this argument. Now to be perfectly honest, I think Robert Heinlein made a very compelling case for just this line of reasoning in Starship Troopers (the book, not the clueless projected travesty). Heinlein said that the only people who should be allowed to vote are those that have served in the military, since only they are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice on behalf of the state. I don’t agree with that. I think civilian control of the military has been one of the pillars of our nation’s success, and it has withstood the test of both World Wars and Civil ones. But that is the world you are stuck in when you toss that little Chickenhawk grenade.
Finally, if the only legitimate opinion on Iraq, say, is that held by the troops themselves, then they are overwhelmingly in favor of being there and finishing what they started. I recently received an e-mail from an Army major who is heading back for his fourth tour. The Chickenhawk argument, coming from an anti-war commentator, legitimizes only those voices that overwhelmingly contradict the anti-war argument."
nahanni,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the links about the chickenhawk arguement.
I got it loud and clear.
You were just mouthing off earlier, and you really don't think the war is that important either.
BTW, I knew that before i posted.
Shorter nahanni,
ReplyDeleteI really don't believe anything I posted at 9:05 AM.
I realize one can be against the war while not rooting for AQ to kill americans.
I was just blowing hot air and playing politics with the lives of American soldiers.
Fixed by Bert.
Nahanni- I see you dusted off your cluebat. It's good to give it a workout every once in awhile whether it needs it or not.
ReplyDeleteBrave anonymous poster,
ReplyDeleteBoy, you really don't know when to keep your mouth shut do you?
I got it loud and clear.
No you didn't as your snarky comment that follows this one shows.
You were just mouthing off earlier, and you really don't think the war is that important either.
Memo to brave anonymous:
You are not as smart as you think you are.
With the above comment you made you proven that you know that every single one of your positions is wrong but in order to save your fragile ego you try to save face. Unfortunately all you have done is become the poster child of the day for that old adage.
As to your childish "you really don't think the war is that important either" shite.
I have friends and family there in the line of fire. Who do you have there, little boy/girl/it? Let me guess-peacelovedove hippie human shields for your jihadi heroes or perhaps you have brave friends and family in Code Pinko. Perhaps you came out of your parents basement long enough to join your friends in spitting on our servicemen and women before adjourning to Starbucks to pat yourselves on the back about being so brave.
Here is another memo to you:
Actually it is a reading assignment. Four Years In
It describes fools like you to a "T".
Here is a taste...
"We shall overcome. | Overcome who? Your fellow citizens? Certainly not the enemy. You'll not get over on this one with your Ghandiesque platitudes, unless you are ready to all go like lemmings over the cliff and onto the spikes. You don't strike me as the kind of people with that level of commitment. You strike me as the kind of people who like to prance, rant, and chant, and then go home for a nice chilled Chardonnay and a slab of grilled tofu. Then you spend an hour bitching about Bush before taking a bong hit and sucking up some MTV. I know you well. I was you.
We shall take our no balls and go home. | You will return when your children are slaughtered in their schools. You will return when one of our cities burns. You will return when your cities freeze in the winter, your drinks warm without ice in the summer, your iPods go flat as you walk streets with few lights, when your electricity is rationed, and the shelves of your store are bare. You will return when the crops fail and the trucks cannot run.
Look around you. Everything you have, everything, is there because of oil. The brute fact of the planet right now and into the next few decades is that without oil, the machine that enables you to be you runs on oil. If that oil runs out, your nation, any nation, will do all that it can to get it back. And you will be back not "with peace, but with a sword" of a terrible fire. In your name. In all our names.
It will not be our fault because we marched and spoke up. We moved on. | You have made a festival out of your foolishness if you are young, and, if you are old, out of a yearning for a lost youth you left behind on the last day of 1969. You have carried that yearning forward all your life. You re-enact that foolishness again because you know no other, and you know no better.
"We shall not/ We shall not be blamed." | If we leave because of your pouting and pique, we will return because of your stupidity. There will be blood after and blood later and fire to follow. That war will not take four years. It will take an afternoon at best, but decades of digging out will follow. A million may die here but many millions will die there. What follows will make the Great Depression seem a mild recession. History will unfold in ways we cannot now fathom. The American experiment, still young, may falter. Other forces, not so easily congenial to freedom, may rise. The utopian world you seek will be set back a century at the least. We will all have to bear the brand of that fire, but on your foreheads the mark will be sharp and deep. And we will know you for what you are. Worse still, you will know.
Four years in and the only way out and out now would be to quit. Capitulation is not a policy. It is merely procrastination. There is a way out, but it is years away and many people, people who swoon easily in the light sun of this war lite, do not have the ability to endure war; even so tepid a war as this. They do not have the simple patience.
It is in patience alone that our enemies outstrip us. After all, when you look at what they have made of their "civilization" what indeed do they have to lose?
Four years in and what do we have to lose should we be forced to lose?
In time, everything."
Patience?
ReplyDeleteFor what? To spend 3 more weeks looking for Saddam's WMDs before the war?
What are you french?
patience is a nuanced position.
Here's a reading assignment: Go look at what you war mongers said to us DFHs (Dirty F***in' Hippies) about patience before the war.
BTW, you might notice in your reading how us DFHs were 100% correct.
The Iraq war is the biggest foreign policy mistake in the history of this great republic.
The American public might be slow on the uptake, but even they are starting to catch on (70% and climbing).
I was brave enough to be against the war before it started. I marched against the war (along with millions of others who were dismissed and ridiculed by war mongers like you).
I notice you are brave enough to send others to die for something so important to you.
Bravo, tough guy.
Not anonymous
Bert
Bert,
ReplyDeleteAren't you getting dizzy from all the spinning you are doing? You may fool yourself but you aren't fooling me.
Memo to you, hun:
One who is wise knows that at times the best way to save face is by quiet contemplation.
This is something you might think about doing.
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GP,
Yes it is at times. The problem is that it is getting to the point where it is having diminished effect.
The ones who needed it have gotten the clue and all that are left are the ones who are too blind, stupid or ideologically constipated to grasp the clue. The ones on the side of the Islamofascists will only get the clue as they are dying at the hands of their jihadi heroes.
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ReplyDeleteyou're welcome juandos.. :)
Dems, huh, what are they good for??
absolutely nothin'!!
we ain't buyin' their cryin' & lyin'!!
Dems, huh, what are they good for??
absolutely nothin'!!
“Is this a publicity stunt? Yes,” a senior Democratic aide told FOX News.
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No spin here.
ReplyDeleteI was aginst the war and tried to do something about it.
You were for the war and...(hint: stayed at home nice and safe).
Let me know if you want an honest debate about the war, instead of sliming those of us against it as America haters.
bg,
I tend to think the all-nighter is a stunt too.
I'll change my mind when the Dems force an all-nighter every night until our troops are back home safe (even nahanni's 19 friends and family, you know--the real heroes).
Bert
bert,
ReplyDeletePatience?
This war has been going on for 600 years. This current phase of it was started by Jimmy Carter.
For what? To spend 3 more weeks looking for Saddam's WMDs before the war?
This one is about as tired as the Chickenhawk shinola.
To quote Whittle again because he does such a fine job with your shinola. You really need to just go over and read the whole thing, fool.
"Recent reports of the advanced state of the Iraqi nuclear weapons program, and the confirmed presence of 700+ chemical shells leaves this chestnut in some disarray. However, even if you take that away, the entire concept is a cowardly and petty retreat spoken by people who know better.
Here is a pretty decent encapsulation of what both Republicans and Democrats had to say about Saddam and WMD’s. You will find Bush’s and Rumsfeld’s rhetoric somewhat less adamant and warlike than that of Mr. and Mrs. Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, Al Gore, Robert Byrd, Nancy Pelosi, Hans Blix, Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger and all the rest. These were elected representatives who studied the same intelligence that the White House did, and came to the same conclusion.
Unfortunately for them, Al Gore in his unbridled enthusiasm went and invented the Internet, and so now there is a record of what they said and when, available to the great unwashed masses. It shows a group of people deeply concerned about what was a pressing threat to this country. And now, almost all of them claim they were lied to? Are they capable of reading intelligence reports themselves, or did Bush have to read it to them aloud, with them seated at his knee in My Pet Goat fashion, skipping the parts he didn’t think would make a good sell? Some people say that they did not get the same intelligence that Bush got. To the degree that is or isn’t true, the record shows that it was the more outlandish claims that were not included, so that the intelligence that led them to come out against Saddam and in favor of military action was less provocative than the intelligence the President and Secretaries of State and Defense saw.
The invasion of Iraq was meant to prevent Saddam Hussein from using Weapons of Mass Destruction. This mission was accomplished by the time President Bush stood on that carrier deck. The huge majority of casualties we have incurred in the occupation and reconstruction of Iraq have come about by our willingness to rebuild and secure a country that we owed nothing to whatsoever.
Here is the legacy of the Bush Lied, People Died crowd: in the future, we know that no good deeds – building of hundreds of schools and hospitals – will go reported. We know that no foul deeds – a handful of idiots humiliating prisoners over the course of a few days – will ever be put into perspective.
So why do it? Why build schools and hospitals, and protect polling places, and suffer the casualties we have suffered to get a country on it’s feet, if all we hear and see is the negative and the undeniable failures? The next time we have to go and kick the hell out of some band of rabid crazies, why not just kick the hell out of them and then go home? Because there will be a next time, and I suspect sooner rather than later. By refusing to report the myriad successes and kindnesses, our compassionate and caring moral betters in the media have only shown there is very little reason to do them in the first place, except for the satisfaction of our own morality and conscience -- which I hope will be enough.
Let me leave you with something very, very important. It is the greatest logical fallacy of them all, and if you hope to gain any perspective in the world today, I believe you have to understand what I am about to say in your bones.
You cannot just count the hits and not record the misses.
May I show you something to make this point?
What you are about to see is a graphical representation of commercial air flights over the US on any given day. You will see dawn on the east coast as more and more flights get airborne, and watch morning spread to the west as the country comes alive. It is one of the most beautiful marriages of science and art I have ever seen. It is here. Go take a peek then come back. I'll still be here.
Every dot in that animation is a jetliner, carrying hundreds of people. This is the first time I have ever actually seen the miracle that takes place in our skies every single day.
Why am I showing you this? Well, because every single dot in that ocean of sparks is a successful flight. Tens of thousands of flights land in this country every single day and no one says a word about it. And yet, when there is an accident – and you would have to watch every dot in that animation almost 2000 times to get back to the last fatal accident by a large-scale carrier – that sticks in our minds, obviously, and that image of burning wreckage is what stays with some people on their entire flight. They do not think about all the millions of flights that land safely. Nor do they think about the thousands of car accidents that occur with so much greater frequency.
Why?
Because we are recording only the hits – the crashes – and not recording the misses, namely, the safe landings. If you had to drive to work every day listening to radio announcements of every successful landing, you would be listening to a cacophony of flight numbers twenty-four hours a day. After a few years of this you might be able to get a glimmer of perspective on the safety of modern air travel.
Likewise in Iraq. Hand out candies to children on a daily basis, and the smiles and gratitude are nowhere to be seen on US television. But if some death-loving lunatic decides to scatter body parts to the four winds you can bet that will get the News media’s attention. Complete a new hospital, or a water treatment plant, or bring electricity or television stations to neighborhoods that never had them before? Yawn.
On the day of the last Iraqi elections -- the day they ratified the constitution the press said these people would never ratify -- CNN's lead story was about nasty rain showers sweeping the southeast. About these historic elections there was heard not a peep.
Iraqi TV has a version of American Idol. Did you know that? They produce hundreds of hours of comedies, game shows – all that stuff. Sounds a little arcane for Iraq, you say? A little normal? That’s because people who believe they are smarter than you have decided that such stories of hope and success do not fit the narrative needed to teach you poor ignorant slobs the lesson that you are supposed to be learning, and that lesson is that George Bush is a murderer while Saddam was a statesman, and that Iraq is a failure fueled by the blood of poor, innocent, child-like soldiers too stupid to realize that they are dying to line the pockets of Halliburton.
My critical thinking skills, such as they are, tell me that you might be able to corral an army and send it over there under such false pretenses. What I cannot explain is why so many people in the military re-up, two or three or four times, to go back and fight for this oil-soaked lie that people here maintain is the truth, despite what the people who have actually been over there have to say about it.
This is an all-volunteer military. Why would so many of these people keep returning to such danger, and put themselves and their families at such terrible risk, for a lie or a mistake?
If Iraq is a con game and an oil steal and an unwinnable quagmire then this just doesn’t make any sense. But back they go! That’s the data. The people most optimistic about Iraq – and those with the most to lose – are generally the same people. They are the men and women who are over there now because they believe they are doing something honorable and good. No one is forcing them to reenlist. Hear that John? I’d hire any one of these people in a heartbeat. They are brighter than the general population, and they are so far beyond their Ivory Tower critics in terms of discipline, courage, ingenuity, integrity and honor that it makes one’s head spin.
Are we beating these terrorist scumbags and child-targeting insurgent bastards? Are we winning?
Well, let’s see if we want to switch sides with them. Let’s imagine the war where the insurgents have our cards and we hold theirs.
Imagine the US completely occupied by Al Qaeda forces, subject to Sharia law. We are able to take pot shots at a few of them, and we manage to murder a few dozen of our own people every day in an attempt to stop the population from collaborating with the hated invader. But more and more Americans seem to be turning to Sharia and want to get on with their lives. We find sixty percent of the population wants Al-Qaeda to leave, but hatred for the US insurgent forces – the Wolverines – is at about 98%. The people hate the occupiers, but they despise the Wolverines.
Now imagine that a year into the occupation of America, George Bush’s two daughters were killed in a firefight with the enemy, which had surrounded the college sorority house where they were hiding. A year after that, President Bush was pulled out of a septic tank in Crawford by the Fedayeen, then put on trial and sentenced to hang, which he did on national television to widespread cheering. Condi Rice, captured in an early morning raid several years ago, has been a great source of useful information to target the American resistance, and Donald Rumsfeld was killed by a suicide bomber this last summer.
Everywhere you turn – in every street and every city in America – Al Qaeda forces run security patrols, training Americans to do this for themselves. The only way to stop this is by killing our own people, which further alienates us from a populace that already despises us.
Does that feel like winning to you? Me neither. Welcome to the insurgency."
patience is a nuanced position.
Here's a reading assignment: Go look at what you war mongers said to us DFHs (Dirty F***in' Hippies) about patience before the war.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."-Inigo Montoya
You are a fool!
I guess you haven't realized that the use of the word "nuance" makes any argument you are trying to make into an automatic loser.
BTW, you might notice in your reading how us DFHs were 100% correct. The Iraq war is the biggest foreign policy mistake in the history of this great republic.
No it isn't.
In actuality it was Jimmy Carter's stupidity and weakness in his handling of the Iranian hostage crisis that was the worst. His weakness encouraged and gave birth to the modern Islamofascist movement.
As time has gone on I wonder if he was not actually working for the Islamofascists while he was president. he has become one of their greatest supporters since, just like his Democratic party.
It was further exacerbated by Clinton's allowing Osama to get away when the Sudanese offered him up on a silver platter. Clinton's refusal to act on this and his inaction while we were continually attacked by Al Qaida was sheer spinelessness. Spinelessness that essentially told the Islamofascists to keep attacking us because there would be no consequences for their actions.
The American public might be slow on the uptake, but even they are starting to catch on (70% and climbing).
You really have to quit believing MSM push polls, hun. But that is ok, reality is a very hard thing for someone who dwells in their parents basement in the "reality-based community" of the mind to grasp.
I was brave enough to be against the war before it started. I marched against the war (along with millions of others who were dismissed and ridiculed by war mongers like you).
That isn't "bravery", hun. You were just showing your support of Islamofascism and your hope that they destroy America and western civilization. You are not "anti-war", you are just rooting for the other side. Let me guess, you were wearing a kaffeyeh and your Che T-Shirt, too. So fashionable with your ilk. I am sure you got many nice compliments for your attire at Starbucks.
You are the ultimate warmonger, hun.
I notice you are brave enough to send others to die for something so important to you.
You have never answered my question, fool. How many friends and relatives do you have over there and in what capacity are they there.
Why won't you answer that simple question, hun? Is it because that you use your phony concern about our servicemen and women as a cynical tool to push your agenda? I got news for you, the only one who is fooled by your "concern" is yourself. You only care about our servicemen and women when your Islamofascist heroes kill them. You only care about them if you can get a good wad of spit into their faces. Save that shit for your idiot friends over at Kos/DU/PuffHo/Bartcop because no one is buying it here. You are as transparent as a pane of glass and you are too stupid to realize it.
Bravo, tough guy.
I am a woman.
Not only that I have many friends and family over there.
You have blood on your hands. The worst kind.
Now...
Seeing as you are all keen for people to go and fight over their for what they believe in why the hell aren't you over there fighting alongside your Jihadi heroes? If you are going to talk the talk then walk the walk, boy.
My guess is that you are the type of person Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was talking about.
"Oh sure, the infidel progressives like to talk a good game. They’ll call you “freedom fighters” and “the resistance” and “Iraqi Minutemen.” But soon as you need some volunteers to take out a grade school full of collaborators, they’re like, “sorry dude, I’ve got to run off some International ANSWER fliers at Kinkos....."
”Man, I just don’t get it. There are lots of other American groups who are joining us against Bush’s crusade, like David Duke and Fred Phelps and Stormfront. But who do I get automatically lumped in with? East Village Rage Against My Allowance f**kwits in Fred Perry tracksuits who can’t figure out the controls on an iPod, let alone an international revolution.
It's not fair, and I swear to Allah the next time somebody tries to link the jihad with these infidel dipsh*ts, I am totally going to snap. And the next time one of you chicken martyrs puts on a keffiya and starts babbling about “solidarity with the resistance,” remember this: just because we are planning to kill you last doesn’t make you our buddy.
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ReplyDeleteBarbara Starr reporting from Ramadi Iraq
Fardh Al-Qanoon Update: MND-B general sees change, progress
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[Campbell called this period of the operation a critical time, as American forces are now in place throughout the country, working side-by-side with their Iraqi counterparts. While a lot of attention has been given to “surge” of American forces, Campbell said nine additional Iraqi Army battalions were also brought into Baghdad as part of Operation Fardh Al-Qanoon.
Campbell noted that nearly 400 separate company-level or higher operations have been conducted with Iraqi Security Forces since the FAQ began in mid-February, with more than 740 weapons caches uncovered through those operations.]
Securing Iraq; A Pivotal Moment in Time (video)
Iraqi Army cleans Baghdadi of insurgency
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[Marines walked alongside Iraqi army soldiers through cliffs, villages and palm groves as they used the training they had received to discover any hidden caches.
Iraqi locals cheered for the Iraqi army and Marines as they passed.
The relationships created during the sweep included a simple hello and delivery of supplies. The Marines say they are hopeful the Iraqis will realize the Iraqi army and coalition forces are here to help.]
[“The operation was a test to see if they can be actively combat efficient,” said Howard. “They planned the execution, logistics, and coordination of the entire movement, while we provided the minimal support needed.”]
Blackfive & Iraq in a nutshell
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[The bottom line is that we are freaking winning out here. And the really astonishing thing is that Coalition Forces aren't the main effort -- we're simply an enabling factor. The Iraqi people, the moms and dads of Iraq, are the ones who are winning this war.]
Ubaidi, Anbakia tribes sign peace agreement in Diyala
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[Sheik Hamed Hazber Hasan Abdal al-Anbak, paramount sheik for the Anbakia tribe, and a key tribal leader from the Ubaidi tribe, have been meeting for the past several months to discuss and work through grievances between their respective tribes.
By signing the peace agreement, the tribes agreed to “swear by God and his holy book Quran that we will unite in fighting terrorism in our areas.”]
[Key promises of the agreement include ending tribal infighting and kidnappings; providing names of tribal members operating against the people; fighting al-Qaida within Diyala; cooperating and working with the Iraqi security forces to assist in discovering improvised explosive devices and locating corrupt individuals within the government and security forces; honoring the law; solving agricultural disputes within tribes and assist in returning displaced families to their homes.
After signing the agreement, both tribal leaders placed their hand on the Quran to signify their commitment to the stipulations of the agreement.]
eh, that's just a small sample of all the "sea of change" GOOD NEWS the MSM is NOT reporting & the Defeatocrats are NEGLECTING & REJECTING.. fact is, the Dem leadership is stuck in a political quagmire of their own making..
oh yeah,here's another little tid bit.. (thumbsup)
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ReplyDeletehey!! was it just my conection.. or did anyone else NOT get to hear Hillary's speechifying??
thanks, bg
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600 year war with Islamofacists?
ReplyDeleteYet Reagan was trading arms with Iran and giving arms to iraq 25 years ago.
Thanks for reminding me how absolutely shitty Reagan was as President (but he did ALMOST out-act that monkey in the bonzo movies).
Al Quaeda in Iraq before the start of the war: No members.
After the start of the war: America's greatest threat (so says you).
W and Cheney couldn't have helped AQ recruiting more if they had set-up AQ recruiting booths at every market in Iraq 24/7.
How many of my friends and family in iraq?
None, although you stated I'm aginst America and love America's enemy (because you can't use a reasoned arguement so you just set-up strawmen) so maybe i have tens of thousands friends and family in Iraq.
Nice job by your friends and family over there.
Fighting a bunch of teenagers to a standstill. Very impressive.
BTW, remember when us tree-hugging hippies told you going to war in Iraq would be the greatest foreign policy disaster for america in decades, and you said the war would be over in less than 6 months?
Why is it that us dirty hippies have to always be correct?
Hugs and kisses,
Bert
i forgot, why are we in iraq? well, doesn't matter, we caught AQI's #1, now we're safe from the greatest threat that has ever been faced by any entity in the history of history. good job boys. mission accomplished, let's bring 'em home!
ReplyDeleteBert,
ReplyDelete600 year war with Islamofacists?
Try learning some history, boy. Ever hear of the Siege of Vienna? No, of course not. Ever hear of Al Andulus? No, of course not. Ever hear of the fall of Byzantium? No, of course not. Well, your Islamofascist heroes are still fighting those battles. You, on the other hand, quite obviously know nothing outside of the tired old "talking points" you have been trained to repeat like a parrot.
Yet Reagan was trading arms with Iran and giving arms to iraq 25 years ago. Thanks for reminding me how absolutely shitty Reagan was as President (but he did ALMOST out-act that monkey in the bonzo movies).
LOL!
How predictable! You really do know nothing outside of that talking point flow chart that your Democratic party has given you, do you?
In case you hadn't noticed even your LLL professors, MSM and Democrats have changed their tune on Reagan. Perhaps you are operating with an old version of the LLL talking points, you should contact your supervisor to obtain the revised version.
Now, shall we discuss the arms and assistance that Jimmy Carter gave the mujahdeen in Afghanistan? You know, the same guys that turned into the Taliban and Al Qaida. Shall we discuss Clinton's assistance to Al Qaida by sitting on his ass and doing nothing? Shall we discuss Reid and Pelosi's assistance that they are giving iran, Syria, North Korea, Hamas, Hezbollah and Al Qaida at this moment?
People who live in glass houses should not swing baseball bats, hun.
Al Quaeda in Iraq before the start of the war: No members.
Of course I realise you are just a hired Parrot and have about as much thinking capacity as a Parrot does but you would do well to actually learn something about a subject before opening your piehole.
It may be news to you but there are more Islamofascist terrorist organizations then just Al Qaida. Some are much more dangerous. And Saddam had his fingers in alot of Islamofascist terror organization's pies.
Now, let's give you just one example. And from this you can start actually learning about the topic instead of spouting the LLL line.
Ever hear of a guy named Abu Nidal?
Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row
Abu Nidal in Iraq
Saddam Hussein and Abu Nidal, Terrorist Allies
Here is a quote from this one and notice the date of the quoted article. 1999=Clinton administration.
"There remains a distinct possiblity that Saddam’s contacts with Nidal and bin Laden were part of his grand strategy to launch a series of terrorist strikes against the U.S. For instance, the New York Post’s account at the time (Niles Lathem, “Saddam’s New Weapon: Terror; Courting Bin Laden & Nidal: U.S.,” February 1, 1999) explicity warned:
“Saddam Hussein – battered, humiliated and increasingly isolated – plans to resort to terrorism in revenge for U.S. airstrikes against his country, the Clinton administration believes. … U.S. officials say the CIA has received ‘credible and reliable’ intelligence reports that Saddam is forging alliances with some of the Middle East's most bloodthirsty terrorists – including Osama Bin Laden and Abu Nidal – as part of an apparently new campaign to strike American targets and possibly destabilize Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.”"
I am going to guess you didn't notice another little thing that happened after Saddam fell. Well, maybe you did and are just too saddened by the fact that it happened.
That little thing is that there aren't any more jihadi splodydope attacks on Israel. Want to know why? Because Saddam isn't paying the families of the splodeydopes off anymore. Yup, that is right, Saddam made becoming a shahid a very profitable proposition for some Palestinian families.
Perhaps you and your LLL buddies can take up a collection to buy some or perhaps strap on the bomb belts yourselves.
After the start of the war: America's greatest threat (so says you).
See above. Of course I do not expect someone as intellectually and ideologically constipated as yourself to connect even one dot to another just like you can not find your ass with both hands even if there was a bell on it but that is immaterial. With ever comment you post you show just how ignorant and stupid you are.
W and Cheney couldn't have helped AQ recruiting more if they had set-up AQ recruiting booths at every market in Iraq 24/7.
If that is the case then where is the increased activity by Al Qaida, hmmm? They were attacking us on a regualr basis during the Clinton administration-Khobar, African embassies, WTC, USS Cole, etc.
They can't even get out of Waziristan much less anywhere else and right now the life expectancy of any of your Jihadi heroes very short indeed.
Nice job by your friends and family over there. Fighting a bunch of teenagers to a standstill. Very impressive.
Ah, the sneering contempt for our servicemen and women shines through for all the world to see with this statement. So I guess you can drop your cynical and hypocritical "support our troops" shinola as your reason for wanting to stop the war. Now you can tell the truth as to why you are so desperate to stop it- your side is losing and you don't want any more of your Islamofascist allies and heroes to die.
I never questioned your patriotism, hun. You have plenty of it for your Islamofascist allies and heroes.
As to the rest of your comment you would defecate in your pants and turn into a plate of quivering jello if any of them even looked at you sideways. That is ok, hun. ALL immature little cowards behave just like you. It really must suck to be you-too afraid to fight for your jihadi heroes, too afraid to put on a bomb belt and blow up a school but certainly "brave" enough to show just how stupid you are to the world.
BTW-You still haven't answered my questions, coward.
BTW, remember when us tree-hugging hippies told you going to war in Iraq would be the greatest foreign policy disaster for america in decades, and you said the war would be over in less than 6 months?
You might wish to put the bong down sometime, hun. It ruins your memory plus it gives you the attention span of a walnut. Now, if you had been paying attention to reality insted of cowering in your parents basement in the "reality-based community" you would know that the only ones who said such things are idiots such as yourself.
I know it is hard to keep a grasp on reality when you are stoned all the time but try to do so. You will note that the only ones who believe your shinola are your fellow travelers. The reality of the situation is much different. Now, I guess you have not noticed that just about every LLL Euro governemnt who thought just like you has been booted out by their citizens. The only ones who remain clueless are LLL's such as yourself.
Memo to you: 1968 is over. Time for you to grow up.
Why is it that us dirty hippies have to always be correct?
You have never been correct. Of course you would actually have to live in the real world to realize this. History will judge you and your allies very harshly. That shouldn't bother you too much seeing as you are ignorant.
To quote Vanderleun again:
If we leave because of your pouting and pique, we will return because of your stupidity. There will be blood after and blood later and fire to follow. That war will not take four years. It will take an afternoon at best, but decades of digging out will follow. A million may die here but many millions will die there. What follows will make the Great Depression seem a mild recession. History will unfold in ways we cannot now fathom. The American experiment, still young, may falter. Other forces, not so easily congenial to freedom, may rise. The utopian world you seek will be set back a century at the least. We will all have to bear the brand of that fire, but on your foreheads the mark will be sharp and deep. And we will know you for what you are. Worse still, you will know.
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ReplyDelete"utopia" literally means "noplace"..
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