Sunday, July 06, 2008

Father Strangles Daughter in Georgia Honor Killing

They seemed to be decent, lovely people.

Chaudhry Rashad strangled his 25 year-old daughter Sandela Kanwal because he felt her plans for divorce would have disgraced the family. (MyFOX Atlanta)

WSBTV Atlanta has video HERE.

LGF and MyFOX Atlanta reported:

A Clayton County man was behind bars Sunday, accused of killing his own daughter. Police said the father was angry because he felt his daughter was disgracing the family.

Investigators said 54-year-old Chaudhry Rashad was so outraged at his daughter, Sandela Kanwal, and her plans for divorce that he killed her after a heated argument at the family's home. Investigators said Rashad confessed to strangling the 25-year-old woman.

"The family is very upset and stressed," said Shahid Malik of the Pakistani American Community of Atlanta.

Malik met with the family Sunday and said they were all traumatized.

Neighbors said the family was generally quiet, but also hard to miss.

"I would see the young lady outside every once in a while dressed in the traditional Muslim gear," said neighbor Jack Hannah.

"The father, he would pray at certain times of the mornings and evenings," said neighbor Cynthia Smith.

Rashad was taken to the Clayton County jail. Police said they interviewed Rashad and he said he killed his daughter as a matter of honor, because he felt her plans for divorce would have disgraced the family.

"She was under depression too and the father was very stressed and under depression," said Malik.

23 comments:

  1. Under depression, you stupid jerk? I don't understand why all these people aren't questioned about whether they believe in things such as honor killings. It might help to at least keep some of these people out of the country. They should also get psychological examinations.

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  3. Religion of Peace...

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  4. Interesting cultural standards.

    Divorce brings dishonor to a family, but murder doesn't.

    A relevant fact: In the year 2006 Pakistan had existed for 43 years and had a population of 156 million, but Pakistanis had registered only eight international patents.

    Eight.

    Allah would be proud.

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  5. Anonymous10:16 PM

    They've gotta go... period. I said that before the first WTC bombing.

    To metal. I seriously doubt he would tell them he believed in honor killings. Taqiyya.

    The psych eval for me was way back till today re: attacks and lack of speaking out. Told me all I needed to know. Thousands of hours of couches couldn't tell me more than that.

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  6. Turn that son of a bitch into a martyr as soon as possible! Don't pay a cent for his upkeep and incarceration.

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  7. Anonymous3:22 AM

    Now folks...

    Don't forget! Islam is piss... errr... peace!


    It surely is peaceful once everyone who opposes (no matter in what way) is dead. It's also peaceful once everyone, who's different, is dead. It's certainly peaceful when only one kind of people stays alive: those who fall on their knees five times a day and point their butt to the sky in order to worship their bloodthirsty idol.

    So I say again... Islam is piss... Errrr... peace... Oh boy, those typos! *innocent!*

    But honestly... can't we just throw them out and send them back to where they came from? It's not that we really need them. So, send them back home. Build a huge wall around those countries, and once inside, they can do whatever they want to each other. Maybe, they'll kill each other until there's no moosel left anymore.

    BTW... If muslims face Mekka during prayer and they kneel... Given that the Earth is, more or less, shaped like a ball... They're also pointing their asses towards Mekka, just the other way.

    And I still say, let's just take the oil from them. Since Mohammed's version of Mein Kampf (also known as koran or however you want to spell that piece of crap) doesn't mention oil in any way, they have no right to keep it.

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  9. Honor killings are not endorsed by Islamic law. It is a form of terrorism.

    And before everyone starts jumping on the "let all the Muslims just kill themselves off" bandwagon, just remember as recently as a year ago the only news out of Iraq that made it to the eyes and ears of Americans were suicide bombers and IEDs. Those are the actions of terrorists just as that father is a terrorist murderer. Let's not be the "MSM" and make reality based on a minority of incidences. The majority of incidents do NOT make up the total picture just as CNN reporting last year on whatever violence it could find in Iraq was an not an accurate picture of the war, ignoring all the good and hard work that was happening by, oh yes, MUSLIMS helping Coalition Forces defeat the apostate al-Qaeda terrorists.

    We have plenty of anglo-saxon people who kill their own family members, too. Remember that crazy woman in TX who drowned all 5 of her kids because she said God told her to? How about that pervert in Sweden or wherever who kept his daughter in the basement for decades while he fathered her children? David Koresch? What about all the stories currently in the news about fathers, uncles, mothers..kiling their children for some stupid reason as a justification?

    Christianity isn't defined by Jim Jones or the crusades and neither should we let Islam be defined by the actions of murderers who say they are Muslim. After all, our most important allies in the world are emerging from the Middle East so if you actually want a peaceful world for our posterity, we'd better start separating the good Muslims from the fake Muslims and know the difference. By the comments in this thread, no one seems to know the difference.

    Remember that Iraqi security guard last year who threw himself on a suicide bomber killing himself to save a few U.S. soldiers? He was Muslim.

    Remember the Son of Iraq who ran out of the safety of his cover to stop a car bomb rolling at a U.S./Iraqi outpost in order to save our soldiers lives and was himself killed? He was also a Muslim. These are the stories that we have blogged about over the last 5 years but somehow we never say "A Muslim man selflessly sacrificed himself for a U.S. soldier today.." Don't we realize that these stories of heroism are from Muslims?

    You don't have to accept Islamic theology to accept Muslims. I'm a Christian, I certainly don't accept Islam as the true faith any more than they accept my religion as the true faith. But we can still live together in peace and Muslim scholars, singers, artists, heads of state and organizations have been reaching out for years now to answer the question, "Why aren’t Muslims standing up to oppose the violence done in the name of Islam?" Well, they are but we just aren't listening or we outright refuse to believe it and make stupid comments like, "Let's just carpet bomb them all" or "Let's let them kill each ohter off." Or my personal favorite, "Religion of hate".

    Well, it is that ignorant attitude that has drawn out the war in Iraq and Afghanistan as long as it has. Do you not think Iraqis and Muslims around the world hear these insults attributing to the them that it makes it harder for them to trust the Americans in uniform in their country? I can tell you for a fact it does.

    Read the Torah. God commanded rebellious children, women caught in adultery, etc., etc, to stoned to death as their punishment. If pointing back to Mohammad and intrepret the Koran without historical context is the litmus test, I guess that really screws the Jews, doesn't it? And don't forget Moses, Abraham, King David, all had many wives and/or concubines. King David murdered a man because he slept with his wife. And they married VERY YOUNG GIRLS. Mary, Jesus' mother, was probably only 13-15 when she was married. So...let's condemn the Jews and Christians too, right?

    The conversation we should be having here is that religion and a belief in God is incompatible with violence and that they are not acts of faith, they are acts of apostasy.

    My husband worked under GEN Petraeus at Ft. Leavenworth and then went to Iraq earlier this year to support the MNF-I by writing doctrine for the Army concerning Religious Leader Engagement in the war and counterinsurgency and I can tell you for certain that the comments in this thread are not what GEN Petraeus believes about Muslims. He works with them as brothers in arms, and with clerics and sheiks as fellow scholars.

    What did everyone say when that fruitcup lady from TX drowned her 5 children? “Oh, another loving Christian! What a warped religion.” No, we wrote her off as a fruit loop and that’s what should be done with this evil man. Anyone who could kill his daughter is evil. It’s that simple.

    Let’s not be misplaced in our outrage here.

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  10. Anonymous5:13 AM

    Amy,

    I read your post but continue to remain unconvinced.

    I continue to see many examples of a religion that is abhorrent to freedom loving and peaceful people. For example, the coninued existence of slavery, the desire to kill non-belivers such as the US, and fatwah's authorizing the killing of US solidiers and citizens, and the Gaza take over.

    To me the biggest example of Islam's desire is their treatement of the Arabs in Israel. Jews from throughout the arab world have emigrated to Isael, often with only the clothes on their backs. In return, have the Arab countries helped the Arabs in Israel emigrate? No. Why not? Because they want conflict with Israel and are willing to allow millions of their brothers suffer under abject poverty and violence. Surely Saudi, UAE, and Kuwait have the resources to help the Arabs in Israel.

    As you may be able to tell, I believe that the only way for peace in the Middle East is to separate the parties in the Arab/Israel conflict. Israel is a tiny speck of land, it is a democracy, and it is a productive society. Saudi has great quantities of land that could be used to create a homeland for Arabs of Israel. Those are the reasons, Isreal should be allowed to expand.

    Islam wants war. I, for one, am fed up with folks telling me about the Religion of Peace. Peak Oil, Global Warming, and Religion of Peace are the three most dangerous ideas in the world.

    Mike123

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  11. Anonymous6:03 AM

    i'm sure we will hear a huge outcry from women's groups right? democrats? code pink? hello? anyone home?

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  12. Yeah Amy, we realize that Christians are doing honor killings all over the place! That is the biggest bunch of bushwa that I've ever heard! You're trying to spin the honor killings as something done by mad men!

    Ok, if they're madmen then you've just indicted their entire religion because the culture encourages the practice and the religion has absorbed the culture. Observe the fact that under sharia the males get off because they were re-establishing the honor of the family. We've seen it in Denmark, Canada, Britain (with a dull knife and the siblings forced to watch), the US, Pakistan, Iraq, Indonesia, Sweden in addition to others that haven't been reported.

    You notice BTW that you don't hear about male directed honor killings so you're a little soft on the sisterhood thing. You sound like a prog!

    Finally, as a Christian I feel really sick that you have tried to link me to a group that flew three loaded civilian planes into buildings that were populated with non-combatants and a fourth into the ground! Talk about relativism, maybe you can point out the Christian jihad and the decapitations that are being performed in the service of Christ.

    Please go back to sleep so the rest of us can fight this evil. We don't need your noise level covering up the signal.

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  13. Anonymous9:48 AM

    Amy, God bless you, you probably mean well, and while I absolutely agree that it is wrong to speak in such generalized terms genocidal words against all Muslims, you are just plain in error about both the teachings of Islam and the teachings of the Bible.

    Please also understand that Muhammad's example (called the "Sunnah," from their the label Sunni Muslim) is still to be followed TODAY! Since this post is about women, let's just take a look at a few of Muhammad's wives:

    Even though Muslims were limited to 4 wives (at a time, they could be divorced), Muhammad conveniently had verses from "Gabriel" come down to give him an exception to that rule (and many other exceptions just for him about wives,too--no witnesses, no ceremony, no consent from the women, etc).

    Aisha--the favorite child bride, we all know, he 53 married her at 6 or 7, sex at 9. Not allowed to remarry after his death, though she was only 18 (a verse came down for that exception, too). (When he died he had expressed interest in an infant, Um Habib bint Abbas, that he was waiting to turn of age, 6-9, so he could marry her, too) Aisha, just a girl, sat w/Muhammad as he had 800-900 Jews beheaded in a day

    Safiya--a 17 yr old Jewish newlywed, at 62, Muhammad after a raid killed her father and tortured her husband for info on loot, branding him w/branding iron while forcing Safiya, sitting in his lap to watch, then afterwards had him publicly beheaded, and another Muslim claimed the captive Safiya, Muhammed decided he wanted her so took her and "entered her" that same night, yuck.

    Umm Salma--after he found out who this beauty was, that she was married, he had her husband carry the flag on front lines where he was killed and the next day Muhammed "entered her."

    Umm Habiba--even though she was already married to a guy who was both Muhammad's cousin and brother-in-law, the husband was forced to leave so Muhammad could marry her.

    But that's nothing, he took his own son's wife, too:

    Zainab bint Jahsh--she was actually married to Muhammad's adopted son Zayd (who'd previously been a slave given as a gift to Muhammed from his first 15-year-older wealthy wife). There was a rule against marrying son's wives, but after Muhammad saw Zainab in revealing attire at her home, "Gabriel" conveniently gave Muhammad a verse to change that so that now adopted sons are not sons (indeed there is no adoption in Islam today b/c of this), so that Muhammad could then (after having Zayd divorce her) marry her.

    Juwayriyyah--another young captive that became his wife, after Muhammad paid off another Muslim for her.

    ...it just gets worse and worse, there are so many rapes, murders and horrors, Fatima bint Rabi'a's case might be the most gruesome, she was not one of his wives, she refused to submit to him so Muhammad ordered a deformed slave to rape her daughter in front of her and then he ordered another Muslim to kill her (the mother) by tying her feet to 2 camels and having them go in opposite directions splitting her in half. This is just a bit about Muhammad, "seal of the prophets" whose example is still required to be followed today.

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  14. Anonymous9:51 AM

    I can't seem to remember the last time a Southern Baptist or an Episcopalian or a Greek Orthodox father strangled, shot, or stabbed his daughter for "dishonoring" the family.

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  15. When I read about honor killings, I, too, recall the Old Testament teachings in the Bible. However, I don't know any Christian or Jew who believes that anyone should enforce Old Testament justice. Nobody believes that God tells a mother to kill her five children. Nobody thinks it is God's will for a man to enslave and impregnate his own daughter.
    Unfortunately, there appears to be a substantial group of Muslims who believe in honor killings, stoning and other horrific acts. This group of Muslims seems to think that women have no rights. The very idea that a man would think it was God's will for him to protect his "honor" by killing his daughter is insane.
    If real Muslims abhor sharia and these so-called "honor" killings, then they need to speak up. They need to support appropriate justice for such crimes. It is completely unjust to acquit the rapist and stone his victim. It is unjust to acquit the murderer and vilify his victim.

    We cannot tolerate this kind of behavior.

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  16. Anonymous12:54 PM

    Or, if we want to remove religion from the issue to reduce the heat, what about just adhering to some basic, universal human rights? That is how I view these crimes, as a violation of basic decency. They're an abomination, and we cannot excuse them.

    Ellen R. Sheeley, Author
    "Reclaiming Honor in Jordan"
    http://www.redroom.com/author/ellen-r-sheeley

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  17. Anonymous4:15 PM

    Islam would make one believe in evolution. They haven't evolved far from a mindless 17th century monkey. I trust no muslem.
    Firefighter

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  18. Anonymous7:30 PM

    Difference between a angry father killing his child and a muslim father killing his child is we as a community don't congratulate and celebrate the murderous scum for "reclaiming" some non existant honor as they do in islamic nations.

    M. Wilcox

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  19. i think they definitely need to hang this guy.

    actually, on that note, what has happened to the murderers, in previous cases of "honor killings" in america?

    quick question for cindy: i've heard of most of the women you mentioned but never Fatima bint Rabi'a's case. i spent the last twenty minutes googling her but couldn't come up with anything. do you think you have the name wrong, cause i really want to read up further on this. thanks.

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  20. typical stupid americana xenophobia reflected in alot of these comments.

    sweden, brazil, germany, ecuador, appalachian mountains usa..these are other places of non-muslim populations that have honor killing problems as well.

    it isn't islam that happened here, and i wouldn't say christianity for the former, but ignorance.

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  21. Anonymous11:48 AM

    I am looking forward to the next time the lights go out in Georgia.

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  22. Anonymous9:17 PM

    Jaide said "typical stupid americana xenophobia" so wise one show us any but an islamic society were this brutality is not only condoned but praised.Tell us where on this globe where gang raping a child because her brother saw a girl without a family escort has been the judged punishment for such a horrible transgression,happened in Pakistan.How about courts ordering hanging homosexuals, whipping rape victims for adultery .....

    M. Wilcox

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  23. Anonymous12:20 PM

    GOD BLESS U AMY!

    Amy,
    I'm just reposting this again on behalf of u. Hope God knocks some sense into some of these fools...

    Honor killings are not endorsed by Islamic law. It is a form of terrorism.

    And before everyone starts jumping on the "let all the Muslims just kill themselves off" bandwagon, just remember as recently as a year ago the only news out of Iraq that made it to the eyes and ears of Americans were suicide bombers and IEDs. Those are the actions of terrorists just as that father is a terrorist murderer. Let's not be the "MSM" and make reality based on a minority of incidences. The majority of incidents do NOT make up the total picture just as CNN reporting last year on whatever violence it could find in Iraq was an not an accurate picture of the war, ignoring all the good and hard work that was happening by, oh yes, MUSLIMS helping Coalition Forces defeat the apostate al-Qaeda terrorists.

    We have plenty of anglo-saxon people who kill their own family members, too. Remember that crazy woman in TX who drowned all 5 of her kids because she said God told her to? How about that pervert in Sweden or wherever who kept his daughter in the basement for decades while he fathered her children? David Koresch? What about all the stories currently in the news about fathers, uncles, mothers..kiling their children for some stupid reason as a justification?

    Christianity isn't defined by Jim Jones or the crusades and neither should we let Islam be defined by the actions of murderers who say they are Muslim. After all, our most important allies in the world are emerging from the Middle East so if you actually want a peaceful world for our posterity, we'd better start separating the good Muslims from the fake Muslims and know the difference. By the comments in this thread, no one seems to know the difference.

    Remember that Iraqi security guard last year who threw himself on a suicide bomber killing himself to save a few U.S. soldiers? He was Muslim.

    Remember the Son of Iraq who ran out of the safety of his cover to stop a car bomb rolling at a U.S./Iraqi outpost in order to save our soldiers lives and was himself killed? He was also a Muslim. These are the stories that we have blogged about over the last 5 years but somehow we never say "A Muslim man selflessly sacrificed himself for a U.S. soldier today.." Don't we realize that these stories of heroism are from Muslims?

    You don't have to accept Islamic theology to accept Muslims. I'm a Christian, I certainly don't accept Islam as the true faith any more than they accept my religion as the true faith. But we can still live together in peace and Muslim scholars, singers, artists, heads of state and organizations have been reaching out for years now to answer the question, "Why aren’t Muslims standing up to oppose the violence done in the name of Islam?" Well, they are but we just aren't listening or we outright refuse to believe it and make stupid comments like, "Let's just carpet bomb them all" or "Let's let them kill each ohter off." Or my personal favorite, "Religion of hate".

    Well, it is that ignorant attitude that has drawn out the war in Iraq and Afghanistan as long as it has. Do you not think Iraqis and Muslims around the world hear these insults attributing to the them that it makes it harder for them to trust the Americans in uniform in their country? I can tell you for a fact it does.

    Read the Torah. God commanded rebellious children, women caught in adultery, etc., etc, to stoned to death as their punishment. If pointing back to Mohammad and intrepret the Koran without historical context is the litmus test, I guess that really screws the Jews, doesn't it? And don't forget Moses, Abraham, King David, all had many wives and/or concubines. King David murdered a man because he slept with his wife. And they married VERY YOUNG GIRLS. Mary, Jesus' mother, was probably only 13-15 when she was married. So...let's condemn the Jews and Christians too, right?

    The conversation we should be having here is that religion and a belief in God is incompatible with violence and that they are not acts of faith, they are acts of apostasy.

    My husband worked under GEN Petraeus at Ft. Leavenworth and then went to Iraq earlier this year to support the MNF-I by writing doctrine for the Army concerning Religious Leader Engagement in the war and counterinsurgency and I can tell you for certain that the comments in this thread are not what GEN Petraeus believes about Muslims. He works with them as brothers in arms, and with clerics and sheiks as fellow scholars.

    What did everyone say when that fruitcup lady from TX drowned her 5 children? “Oh, another loving Christian! What a warped religion.” No, we wrote her off as a fruit loop and that’s what should be done with this evil man. Anyone who could kill his daughter is evil. It’s that simple.

    Let’s not be misplaced in our outrage here.

    ITS NOT ABOUT ENDING HUMANITY! WAKE UP MIKE H.!*~PEACE~*

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