Andrew from Zimbabwe forwarded this story on the rioting this weekend in Johannesburg.
SUNDAY, BLOODY SUNDAY
Residents laugh as a foreigner burns in his own blankets
Halden Krog- The Times photographer
The photos in this posting are from the South Africa riots this week.
As we made our way through the Ramaphosa squatter camp in Reiger Park on Gauteng’s East Rand, a woman’s words made us freeze in horror. “They are burning people down there,” she said.
I ran to the nearest police officer and said: “The locals say they’re burning a person at the other intersection.”
Officers leapt into a Casspir and a Nyala, and drove through the debris and barricades in the road.
I ran after them, with other photographers following.
Two hundred metres down the road we found the first man. He had been severely beaten and was semi- conscious. Police thought he was dead, but later realised he wasn’t.
About 25m from him a man was on his knees. There was a mattress covering him, and it was on fire.
He, too, was alight.
Police threw the mattress off him and kicked sand onto him to put out the flames. Another officer ran over with a fire extinguisher, pointed it at him and extinguished the flames. Other officers radioed for medical help.
The man was alive, but barely. He groaned, but he could not speak.
It was all over in 20 seconds.
There was a concrete pillar lying near him, splattered with blood. We can only imagine what was done to him before he was set alight.
The police stayed with him until the paramedics arrived, doing what they could . But residents gathered at the scene were laughing.
Kim Ludbrook, a photographer, admonished them, and we reminded them this was human being and that what had happened was barbaric.
Still they laughed.
The burn victim, whose name has not been released, died last night in hospital.
A man was ‘necklaced’ in Reiger Park as marauding gangs hunt down foreigners in the streets. Heavily armed police fought a ferocious battle across the greater Johannesburg area yesterday as xenophobia-related attacks spread like wildfire.
Since Friday, 12 people have been killed in attacks by rampaging South Africans trying to purge foreigners from informal settlements and central city districts in Johannesburg and the East Rand, following violence in the Alexandra and Diepsloot townships.
By late afternoon marauding gangs roved Johannesburg’s streets setting alight shops owned by foreigners in Jeppestown, Cleveland and Malvern, and engaging in running battles with police. Earlier, mobs attacked foreigners in Hillbrow.
In perhaps the most vicious attack, a man was “necklaced” in Reiger Park on the East Rand.
Jody Kollapen, chairman of the Human Rights Commission, said such scenes were reminiscent of “the dark days of apartheid”.
The HRC will meet today to discuss the violence.
One victim was a deaf mute who was attacked outside the Central Methodist Church in Johannesburg. Known only as “Tarro”, the young man suffered a gash to his forehead at the hands of a mob.
Medical student Herbert Nedi tended to him and said the bewildered Tarro, who could only write his name and could not provide a surname, did not know what was happening around him.
“It was clear he did not have a clue what they [the mob] were talking about. He doesn’t understand what is going on,” said Nedi, as Tarro held a cloth to his head.
At the church, next to the Johannesburg High Court, the situation was on a knife edge as hundreds of Zimbabweans and other foreigners prepared for the worst.
They armed themselves with bricks, and a small police contingent had their work cut out as they vowed to protect themselves.
“Is this how you South Africans are going to treat foreigners when they come here for the World Cup?” asked one irate Zimbabwean, identifying himself only as Charles.
“This is a s**t country. It’s a shame to the rest of the world that they are allowing the World Cup to take place here. South Africans seem to think that no one’s life is precious.”
David Mokone, 22, came to South Africa three weeks ago, seeking a job and a better life. The young man, tears welling in his eyes, sat outside the church as others scampered for weapons to defend themselves.
“It’s better in my own country than it is here,” he told The Times. “I would rather go back and die in Zimbabwe than be killed by South Africans,” he said.
Tony Maara, 30, said: “I have never been more frightened. I didn’t go to work on Saturday because I was threatened. The world must take note of what is happening here.” His sentiments were echoed by 25- year-old Brian Burayai of Zimbabwe.
He said his brother was beaten up on Saturday when a group of Zulu-speaking men asked him if he knew the Zulu word for “elbow”. When he could not answer, they started beating him.
"I thought I would be safe here because Mugabe is a serial killer. But these locals are just as bad," he said.
Previously:
South African Mobs Massacre Illegal Immigrants
Did stuff like this happen when whites were in charge?
ReplyDeleteWere Zimbabwe people flee the country when it was Rhodesia?
Good thing the world decided that blacks should run their own countries, regardless of qualification.
Disturbing... Horrifying.... What can one even say that would capture the depth of depravity these acts demonstrate?
ReplyDeleteMr. smarter....
ReplyDeleteYes, stuff like this happened when whites were in charge. I lived there, and seen similar, but I don't think it's a matter of white and black or black and black. It's a matter of fear of foreigners, fear of job loss, and lack of respect for the rule of law, which may be a result of lack of education, family structure, and evaporation of social capital--it's a strike at the larger community--where a gap exists, and wedged in there is a challenge that requires a united community effort--not just more police.
Gotta love how European media reports on it. Austrian and German media... well... Let's put it this way: I wouldn't know anything about these horrible crimes if it wasn't for the internet and Gateway Pundit.
ReplyDeleteI just checked ORF's teletext, there's 1 page in it, hidden far in the back of "International", just after a small note about French fishermen blocking harbors and before human-animal embroy hybrids in the UK. It seems that a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys blockading their own harbors is more important than human life. Hooray!
German ARD... no word about it in their teletext. Same for the ZDF. Ok, so far for the state-owned stations. Private stations... German Sat 1, not a single word. German RTL+, one little page in the teletext, right after Obama vs Hillary. Pro7, not a word.
It doesn't seem to exist in Germany and Austria.
Anonymous, it requires not only more police, it requires getting out the ugly stick called "army". They want to riot? Fine, bring up some tanks and machine guns, then we'll see how much they really want to riot. And you can't tell me that the "evaporation of social capital" or loss of "family structure" or "lack of education" is a reason for setting human beings on fire. No matter how crappy one's education was, one would always know the basics and I doubt that anywhere in the world (except koran schools) killing people is considered to be a good thing. There is no justification for such behavior. The only answer to such violence is: force. Such a mob doesn't understand another language. Anything else is appeasement and that, as we know from history, never works.
Ugh, necklacing. Is there anything more barbaric?
ReplyDeleteThe photos are gruesome, but necessary. People need to understand reality and not be shielded from the atrocities that are committed in the world. Thanks, Gateway Pundit.
"Ugh, necklacing. Is there anything more barbaric?"
ReplyDeleteMy progressive friends would disagree: Back in the day, when the African National Congress was murdering on a daily basis any who disagreed with their tactics (including kids who dared to go to defy boycotts and go to school to get an education) they had endless reasons to excuse and justify such barbarism.
"Yes, stuff like this happened when whites were in charge."
ReplyDeleteYou leave out that it was the ANC (the party of the "sainted" Mandela) which was doing the necklacing to terrorize dissenters. You further leave out that no one was fleeing Rhodesia except to escape the Marxist terrorists in ZANU and ZAPU; the same terrorists who now run the fictitious nation of Zimbabwe. If you put it to a vote today, I imagine a majority would prefer the return of the late Ian Smith to Mugabe or Tsvangirai. In a few years, you will get a similar result in SA if you poll regarding Zuma or the NP.
Western Civilization is so powerful that it's infrastructure can "coast" for awhile, and the power still comes on, the trains still run, the airplanes don't crash into each other, the medicines are still imported or manufactured.....but the day eventually comes when it begins to grind to a halt. When the levers of control are no longer manned by those whose Genius created them, the veneer wears thin and cracks. Zimbabwe has shattered. South Africa shall soon follow. The resultant deaths can be laid at the altar of what we now call "political correctness", but is more properly called international Marxism.
In the USA, hardly a thing is mentioned of the Zimbabwe situation because two of the medias Marxist heros, Jimmy Cartah and Andrew Young delivered Rhodesia and her populace, black and white, into the murderous clutches of Mugabe. It will be impossible to keep the South African future under so tight a lid, because the death tolls will be staggering. They will make the present conflict in Iraq look like a fistfight on school grounds. Hopefully it will galvanize the West into protecting their culture and Civilzation from decay, and reinvigorate those who fight for Liberty against the forces of chaos and statism.
Old Desmond Tutu and Mandela should stop lecturing the world, while making excuses for Mugabi, and get their asses on the streets of South Africa. There perhaps they can give a few speeches pointing out that, with none left to blame, perhaps Africans themselves may be the problem.
ReplyDeleteDuh.
When whites ruled in South Africa, the number of police suicides were staggering considering the black on black atrocities they were subjected to on a regular basis. When the blacks took over, the white man fled.
ReplyDeleteSomething is seriously evil about people who can laugh at a man severely beaten and burned.
Just remember Odinga, Obama's cousin, whose Muslim followers set churches filled with women and children on fire in Kenya and how Odinga said the violence wasn't going to end until he was made President of Kenya - paraphrasing.
Genocide in Africa is a household name - so common, we must wonder what is going on there: one guess.
This barbarity has existed among black South Africans for YEARS. It happened in the townships during apartheid and it's still happening, only now it's more widespread. South Africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world. Whites live in fear and more and more of them are leaving.
ReplyDeleteWhen are people going to come out and say what everyone already knows - that black people are more violent and barbaric than others? This is true in Africa, in the US, everywhere. Everyone knows it, but won't say it.
ReplyDeletePost-colonial Africa is essentially a lost cause. Tribalism, corruption at every level, despotism rules.
ReplyDeleteWith few exceptions, no sustainable culture is emerging that would permit the societal leaps nexecssary to benefit people not part of the ruling elite tribes. Western culture certainly has its problems, but its success is undeniable.
I guess we'll put your theory to a test. If we had Obama as president, would America degenerate into Africa, Detroit, New Orleans, etc...?
ReplyDelete"When are people going to come out and say what everyone already knows - that black people are more violent and barbaric than others?"
ReplyDeleteWhat an ignorant, racist, prick you are. I really hope that you're some idiotic troll trying to plant racist drivel to discredit this site and its commenters. If you really believe such obnxious BS then you really are as bad as the worst, juvenile, frothing leftwing turd caricatures people on the right as being. You ass.
"When are people going to come out and say what everyone already knows - that black people are more violent and barbaric than others? This is true in Africa, in the US, everywhere. Everyone knows it, but won't say it."
ReplyDeleteWell, I don't believe a word of it and I darn sure don't 'know it'. However if such differences are racial - I'm quite worried. B/c Black folk could point to you and say "When are people going to come out and say what everyone already knows - White folks are dumber than everyone else. This is true in Africa, in the US, everywhere. Everyone knows it, but won't say it."
This isn't a genetic issue or a racial one - and it's hard to believe you can be such an a-hole
It isn't about skin color, its about culture. African culture is barbaric. Barbaric as in barbarian social structures. They don't have the complex social structures in place to deal with frustrations and conflicts, like the West does. So violence, the lowest common denominator, becomes their only way to express themselves. There is no confidence in the government to listen to them, to deliver services, there is no culture of leadership, of accountability and at the end, there is nothing else to do but take it out on someone weaker than you. The only hope I see for S. Africa is the growing middle class who will demand accountability, the same accountability that is demanded of them at their work. Hopefully a political party will spring up with an all inclusive message, instead of the current S. African identity politics that has destroyed the civil service and parastatal technocratic structures that kept the infrastructure running. Put a moron in charge of power, or health or social services or education or police- big deal, the machine rolls on. Replace all the unglorified bureaucratic pencil pushers who actually make things work with unqualified affirmative action hires, and no matter how much they want to do the job properly, they don't have the skills. And the machinery of state grinds to a halt. And a man burns in Joburg while a crowd laughs at him. It isn't an individuals color, language, or religion that matters, it is their common culture.
ReplyDeleteThis is unsurprising to me. Wherever you have "black rule" you can expect disaster on a grand scale.
ReplyDeleteJust some recent examples:
-Rwanda
-Haiti
-Zimbabwe
-Congo
-Liberia
-Kenya
-Chad
-South Africa (where they can't even keep the lights on, riots or no riots)
-Detroit
-New Orleans
-Etc.
I could go on, but I believe I've made my point.
Yeah you've made the point that you are a racist, ignorant, low-life, knuckle-dragging, uneducated, white trash piece of shit. Congratulations, loser.
ReplyDelete"Yeah you've made the point that you are a racist, ignorant, low-life, knuckle-dragging, uneducated, white trash piece of shit. Congratulations, loser."
ReplyDeleteHey, whites aren't the only racists out there.. I'd much rather you statement say "... knuckle-dragging, uneducated, trashy piece of shite." or are you implying all whites are inherently racist?
Sorry to nit-pick.
Yes, that's right I'm implying all whites are racist. Wow, could you be any more dense? And who said that whites are the only racists? Did you finish elementary school or are you still struggling with the big words there? The point is that these lame, simple-minded "see how blacks are" racist posts reflect very poorly on the readership of GWP.
ReplyDeleteI enjoy this blog quite a bit and get a lot of good information and points of view from here and consider myself somewhat conservative/libertarian in my views. I read comments that are nothing more than gutter level racist in their p.o.v. and cringe that I would even find myself remotely close to such garbage.
If you really take satisfaction in "tsk tsk look how black people act" then you're pathetic and as bad as what the holier-than-thou lefty idiots paint anyone remotely conservative.
Before going after Anonymous at 10:10, it would be best to check out the facts, and the facts point in this direction. There could be many reasons for the alarming number of black people who are violent in Africa and in other predominately black communities. The reason could be because of a lack of faith, or perhaps because of choosing a faith that promotes violence.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't the name-callers dispute Anonymous's position with some facts to show what he/she states is not true.
In the end, it all comes down to people choosing to follow Satan or Christ; those that follow God's laws and statutes are good and those who are lawless and lost in their own iniquities are evil....regardless of color. There are many good, righteous black people, and even they fear the black man over the white man on the street. I'm sure if Africa was like America, black Americans who have long left to return to their homeland, but it isn't and they didn't.
People should be seekers of the truth; otherwise, there is no hope for change. Even Bill Cosby couldn't confront the problems in the black community without being ripped apart verbally. Where is the hope in that?
"In the end, it all comes down to people choosing to follow Satan or Christ"
ReplyDeleteGoodbye Gateway Pundit. If the burden is upon someone to present examples that prove that something, i.e. race based predilection toward violence, followed by this statement of idiocy, then this place has become infected with racism and stupidity that I would expect from a place like Daily Kos. Good luck burning witches and studying shapes of heads. Thanks for making conservatives look like ignorant tools.
to present examples that prove that something, i.e. race based predilection toward violence,
ReplyDeletethat should be followed by "is not true".
Oh and thanks for the heads up that there are "many righteous black people." You truly are an enlightened soul. I'm sure Christ is proud of you for holding so deeply noble sentiments.
........and the U.N. is coming to America to investigatre OUR human rights and race problems (abuses)?!?!
ReplyDeleteGood God! Where is the outrage from the African "community"? Where is the UN??
"Yeah you've made the point that you are a racist, ignorant, low-life, knuckle-dragging, uneducated, white trash piece of shit. Congratulations, loser."
ReplyDeleteWow! Venomous personal attacks without even an attempt at refuting the argument presented!
How...typical. ;)
Here's another fun fact for you, that you likely won't address: Over 200 years ago, black Haitians committed genocide against all the Whites in the country...and they've been dependent upon foreign aid from White countries (and eating dirt cookies) ever since.
As for who the REAL racists are, let me recommend this: http://www.amren.com/arattic/colorcrime99.pdf
Oh, wait. Lemme guess. The facts presented in the link above don't count because they were compiled by a bunch of "ignorant, uneducated, knuckle-dragging racist losers," right? Even though the data comes directly from the FBI's UCR, it still doesn't count, correct?
People need to get a reality check. Knee-jerk denunciations of "racist" facts are only meant to censor, to silence. But the facts still remain the facts.
I think that the Central American natives, the residents of the holy land during the crusades, the American Indian, and anyone who dealt with the Spanish Inquisition would disagree with the idea that Christianity is the reason that the West is generally more peaceful. Most of the Far Eastern countries (China, Tibet, India) have a pretty good track record of stabil societies as well.
ReplyDeleteThe issue with Africa is that the entire system of nations is an artificial construct of white colonials. The typical Zimbawean or Darfurian self identifies first by their tribe and/or religion, not country. The reason that Rhodesia was more successful and stable than Zimbabwe is that Britain brought with it the pride of being part of the British Empire and the superior force of the British army to maintain order and keep sectarian/tribal violence from flaring up. When that was taken away what was left was a group of tribes with no connection, no greater cultural identity. It was only a matter of time before these artificial countries collapsed into a the mass of feuding tribes they were before the British, Spanish, French, and Portugese enforced order.
I think you're all getting the wrong take. When one homogenous population is put right atop another one, the result is war. Every time and without exception. These people are only doing what any other human being would do when losing their home to invaders: attack the invaders (or invade someone else).
ReplyDeleteThe government of South Africa bears more responsibility for this horrifying event than any of these people (that is not to say they are not accountable for the immoral acts they commit). A government which will not secure its borders is a government which invites war upon its own people. Just remember that when the "humanitarian" open boarders crowd in this country demand we greant everyone in the hemisphere American citizenship.
I admonish all to stop simply declaring everyone involved a bunch of mindless savages and look at what got them into this mess. The very same thing could happen here, irrespective of how enlightented America is. We are, after all, only human.
Your point was "This is unsurprising to me. Wherever you have "black rule" you can expect disaster on a grand scale."
ReplyDeleteNot once did anyone claim that ONLY whites are racist in refuting your drivel. Not once was it denied that there have been atrocities committed by black rulers. You can put up all the links you want, all the stats you want, if anything it's comical and entertaining how much effort you make to back up your sense of superiority over "the blacks". The point is that your crass generalization that somehow blacks with any power means death, destruction, and disaster, is a sad , shallow point of view that smacks of racism.
Why can't you "anti-racists" offer any defense besides name calling?
ReplyDeleteIf you don't think Blacks or Africans are inherently violent, try offering counter examples instead of performing the rhetorical equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
Before you brand ME a racist, I don't want to beleive what is being said for philosophical and religious reasons, but you have to give us something to work with.
Wow you are a such a pathetic loser.
ReplyDeleteFirst you say, "If you don't think Blacks or Africans are inherently violent, try offering counter examples..." and then say "Before you brand me a racist..."
You're like a freaking parody. Why should anyone waste their time engaging such an intellectually shallow loser like you in anything resembling civil debate. You DENY that you're a racist? You're the living breathing example of it! Your racialist claptrap is right out of the Klan's eugenicist playbook. Do you have any other examples of how certain races or ethnicities are inherently anything else...? The burden is on other people to refute your juvenile point of view? The cross burning's down the street, Bubba, don't miss it.
Yeah you've made the point that you are a racist, ignorant, low-life, knuckle-dragging, uneducated, white trash piece of shit. Congratulations, loser.
ReplyDeleteActually if we do not face the truth head on and figure out what to do about it we will all be screwed. PC bullshit like the above will not cut it anymore.
Blacks commit violent crime at 7X the per capita rate of whites in the US. That is a sad ugly fact but it is not racist to say so any more than it is racist to say Ashkenazi Jews get Nobel Prizes all out of proportion to their numbers in society.
We have facts. Then we have responses to those facts.
Facts are not racist.
For what ever reason (maybe lack of food, maybe something else) The average IQ in Africa is 70 and in America the average is 100. That is a HUGE difference. Because of the way distributions work you will not have a talented tenth. You will have a talented ten thousandth.
Which is why when whites leave it all falls apart.
Now those are some ugly facts, but they are facts. What is done about them determines your humanity.
Do we allow white men to help by providing the missing brain power until better nutrition and medicine raises a capable cohort of blacks or do we or do we get all racist and exclude them as has been done in so many African failed states.
ReplyDeleteWhat is wanted? A working economy or the right color scheme?
Yep, that black self-rule thing seems to be working out real well in southern Africa, eh?
ReplyDeleteDon't worry, people. It will be President Obama to the rescue!!!
ReplyDeleteNot only will he transcend racial divisions in America, the whole world will come to resemble an interminable Coca-Cola advert.
Meanwhile in the real world...
Please don't even think about cancelling the World Cup.
ReplyDeleteEven two years out, the long-suffering locals are eagerly anticipating those wonderful couple of months when the crime rate will plummet as the entire combined forces of police and army are mobilised.
"Yes, that's right I'm implying all whites are racist. Wow, could you be any more dense? And who said that whites are the only racists? Did you finish elementary school or are you still struggling with the big words there? The point is that these lame, simple-minded "see how blacks are" racist posts reflect very poorly on the readership of GWP.
ReplyDeleteI enjoy this blog quite a bit and get a lot of good information and points of view from here and consider myself somewhat conservative/libertarian in my views. I read comments that are nothing more than gutter level racist in their p.o.v. and cringe that I would even find myself remotely close to such garbage.
If you really take satisfaction in "tsk tsk look how black people act" then you're pathetic and as bad as what the holier-than-thou lefty idiots paint anyone remotely conservative."
Hey, Anonymous, did you even read my original response or are you the dense one? You saying that kind of implied that whites were inherently racist, at least thats how I saw it. How do you know that the guy making that statement was white? He could have been asian, hispanic, purple, who knows. Yet, you see that and automatically assume he's white. That's my problem with your statement.
The point is that these lame, simple-minded "see how blacks are" racist posts reflect very poorly on the readership of GWP.
ReplyDeleteAnd who appointed you the guardian of this blog's readership?
As for 'how blacks are', what is your position on the claims that blacks have lower IQs? Then, maybe, we get can a conversation going...
This is what you get in tribal cultures. Multiculturalism and liberalism generate tribal attitude and cultures by dividing everyone up and pandering to the most vocal or bullying. This is Europe's (for one) inevitable future if they keep doing what they're doing.
ReplyDeleteMy first time to the blog. Great stuff everyone, except for the personal attacks.. talk about your loony lefties.... Racism is when we attribute something to a person simply due to their race, meaning it's a stereotype, it's prejudice etc. But to say 'blacks are more likely to commit violence' is a generalization and while most certainly not true of all of them it may be true generally. Due to society or genetic memory or any other number of things. Whether it's true or not i don't know and while not in line with apathetic, left wing political correctness it's not racist to our knowledge. 'black people run faster than white people and don't get sunburn as easily.' not racist but true generalizations.
ReplyDeleteI did a commentary on the "running faster" and other genetic stuff here:
ReplyDeleteInequality
One of the interesting things is that world class weight lifters are almost all Eastern Europeans. A bout 1/2 of the chess Grand Masters are Ashkenazi Jews or have one parent from that race. World class sprinters come from a different part of Africa than world class marathoners.
However, you start talking intelligence and it drives some people nuts. There are blinking light tests that are totally content neutral. They can measure motor skills and decision making. They confirm the results of IQ tests.
It's a major exaggeration to claim that half of chess GMs are Jewish or half-Jewish. That may have had a semblance of truth 50+ years ago, but now I'd put the figure at about 10-15%.
ReplyDeleteAnd regarding higher Jewish average IQ, I thought it was weighted toward higher verbal, rather than visio-spatial ability.
Gherkin,
ReplyDeleteI don't keep up with that data so I can't answer your questions (I'm sure if I looked I could find it - my interest lies in other areas these days like: WB-7 First Plasma)
However, here is some stuff I looked at a while back that is applicable to the question at hand:
Smart fraction Theory and the wealth of Nations
Smart fraction Theory II
Horrors.
ReplyDeleteHorrors.
'When are people going to come out and say what everyone already knows - that black people are more violent and barbaric than others? This is true in Africa, in the US, everywhere. Everyone knows it, but won't say it'
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree with you more. White people are not as inherently evil as Blacks and Asiatics. I have yet to hear of a crowd of White people taking pleasure from the sight of a man being burned to death. These things happen ONLY in non-White communities because the vast majority of non-Whites are savage animals rather than people. Remember that British schoolteacher who was about to be sentenced to death for calling a teddy-bear Mohammed? I'm sure that thousands of Sudanese Muslims would have been happy to see her burning to death. And I'm sure that you anti-racist cunts would have joined them and defended their actions to the death. If irrefutable facts make one racist, then I'm proud to be racist.
"And you can't tell me that the "evaporation of social capital" or loss of "family structure" or "lack of education" is a reason for setting human beings on fire"
ReplyDeleteMentality of this rejection above is not so much different than the African mob burning people alive. This expression is only defending the right for wrong reasons. Those factors given by the other poster aren't excuses. They are just what they are: probably explanations. An explanation doesn't have to be an excuse. That's why the words are different; excuse, explanation, etc. Such factors can lead people to act in all kinds of ways. It's not like people go around reasoning "our life is so shitty, let's burn some people alive!". It's just an underdeveloped state of mind where people are simply unable to maintain logic and coherence in their thoughts and feelings and therefore are able to do all kinds of shit. However, I'd agree that they should be shot dead.
"White people are not as inherently evil as Blacks and Asiatics. I have yet to hear of a crowd of White people taking pleasure from the sight of a man being burned to death."
ReplyDeleteI don't know how much more ignorant a person could be. Ever read history? All of the humans have done all of the most extreme hideosities at one point or another through human history, and that doesn't keep any specific ethnic or racial group out. Seriously, read some history for fuck's sake. You could claim all you want about any ethnic or racial group, about how anyone of them might be "inherently evil", but for truth's sake, don't make stupid statements like the one above, which are undetestably wrong.
"I have yet to hear of a crowd of White people taking pleasure from the sight of a man being burned to death."
ReplyDeleteHow about when large groups of whites gathered to watch black men be beaten/tortured before being hanged? It's called a lynching, and there were a fair number of them in the United States up through the early 1900s.
The three humans responsible for the most death in the 20th century were Hitler, Stalin and Mao. None of them were black or African.
How many did those three "pull the trigger on" personally? I don't know the answer; but to head an organization that kills people wholesale, and to do the actual killing are different animals.
ReplyDeleteBoth groups are vile, and there is certainly responsibility to be shared between them, but the enabler for their "success" in the field of genocidal tendencies lies in the size of their organizations, not in their personal level of skill at ending life. If the African tribes were able to unite at the same level, I don't doubt we would see much the same thing we have now, but on a much larger scale.
The notable three, you mentioned, also started from a wealthy position, genrally in manpower, technology, and/or natural resources.
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undetestably
ReplyDeleteHuh?
Probably worth noting that the crime rate in South Africa under apartheid was very high, as well. The police just let the blacks get on with murdering and pillaging each other. So it's mostly the whites who have the perception that things have gotten a whole lot worse.
ReplyDeleteTry living in south-africa! Thank you all for caring! But what I want to know is what will you do to better the situation? Seems more like the really caring few of you will end up pointing fingers at one another calling each other racists! Then again you're so occupied by commenting on each others posts that by the time you could have helped all of what we have left to call a country will be burning to the ground! I am currently housing two Zimbabweans in tents in my backyard! Stop "caring" and start acting! By the way I'm a white 24 year old and yes my grandfather is probably rolling over in his grave thinking whatever happend to our Afrikaans culture! What I would say to him is... We still are and always will be the future of this country! Bring on you're racism bullshit you people don't know what you're talking about anyway!
ReplyDeleteStart educating on the virtues of capitalism. Honesty across race, class and tribal lines. Getting the best people for the job. etc.
ReplyDeleteIn other words start schools.
Teach equality of opportunity. That life is not fair, but it will be better when the best rise to the top.
You can contact me at Power and Control if you want to discuss more.
Simon
Add money to the "barbaric" equation, and suddenly you'll be waving goodbye to barbarism, drifting away in the rear-view.
ReplyDeleteBut that money doesn't go into the pockets of Africans or Africans society or African culture. It goes in only in the necessary amounts to be able to extract what Africa has, and it goes RIGHT BACK OUT. Nobody gives a FUCK about Africa. Too bad so sad. Now, you get to witness people doing things to each other because they have enough money or resources to be able to put FOOD ON THEIR TABLE. What else do you expect.
Genocide and racial divide is the easiest & quickest solution to problems. The only thing is that it actually doesn't solve the economic problem.
Too much sexual reproduction, not enough intelligence. What's new.
Yes, we Europeans used to do this stuff all the time. It was called the Spanish Inquisition back then. Burning at the stake was a popular past time for those who didn't fit in with religious sensibilities of the time, and religion backed it. I wonder if the South Africans have been studying too many European history books? Might be where they got the idea.
ReplyDeleteI am from South Africa, and from reading this blog, I can draw a conclusion. When people are exposed to these sorts of horrific images they get angry. Most comments are of disgust, racist remarks, or factual representations to try to understand or help others understand this barbaric behavior. Educated people who are intellectually and socially more advanced and are of a wholesome cultural background cannot explain or begin to understand the actions of uneducated, socially inept, hot blooded barbarians. When they try to explain/interpret/understand this behavior they end up offending someone.
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