Obama says-
"I will not denounce the church. It is not a church worthy of denouncing."SHOCKER-- Obama Finally Gives Up Membership to Anti-White Church!!!
It looks like it's getting crowded under that bus.
Obama Leaves Trinity United Church of Christ!
The likely Democratic nominee finally leaves his toxic church after news broke on the vile hateful preaching coming from its ministers and guests.
When even the Associated Press notices the racism and standing ovations at Obama's church it became a problem:
After this week's latest outrageous racist outburst at the altar of Trinity United Church of Christ Barack Obama has finally decided to leave the church.
It's already being called a wimp out.
FOX News just confirmed the story.
Gee, do you think this is a political move by Obama?
Barack Obama was pictured on the cover of the church's Trumpet Magazine several times and has attended the church for over 20 years.
Just like he did with Jeremiah Wright, it took another outburst at the alter before Obama decided to distance himself from the racist church.
Politico reports on the story.
UPDATE: Obama is answering questions after his Trinity speech.
He is basically grouping all churches into the same category as his hateful church in Chicago. He says he is comfortable with finding a church that he can be comfortable with.
Obama just denied that he joined the church as a political move. He is offended by the suggestion. This was an argument by his defenders saying that he only sat in the church because it was a good political move.
Obama claims this was a personal move and not a political one-- That's why he waited until this latest story broke to quit the church.
Obama says this is one (issue) he didn't see coming-- That's why he did not invite his controversial pastor to his initial announcement that he was running for president.
Obama sent the letter on Friday but CNN was going to leak the letter so he decided to give a press conference. Obama said he was not going to make political theater out of it.
Obama says he didn't want his church experience to be a political circus(?)
Obama is not denouncing the church- "It is not a church worthy of denouncing!!"
here's the video:
Unbelievable!
Obama says there is an urgency in lots of churches to speak out against racism or inequality.
Obama assumes God will lead him to a place where he can do His work.
Amen.
Obama says the Christian Church is not a place to avoid the problems in the world.
He hopes to find a pastor who can speak out on those issues.
UPDATE: Trinity Church releases a statement saying they understand his decision.
Pajamas Media is following the developments.
More... Kate adds-- "There goes that historic, transcendent, life-changing, not since the Gettysburg Address, "I have a dream," must-be-taught-in-every-school race speech. It didn't hold up three months, let alone the time it would take to print up new textbooks."
Let Freedom Ring wonders-- "A truly post-racial, postpartisan politician would’ve left long before the YouTube videos appeared."
UPDATE 2: Bob Owens has the Obama quote of the day.
UPDATE 3: Power Line may have said it best on Obama's come to Jesus moments:
Obama also vaguely referred to “a cultural and a stylistic gap” as a source of the problem. Perhaps the entire saga is little more than a tribute to the incomprehension of unsophisticated outsiders. Such outsiders lack the tools necessary to understand the reflections of Reverend Wright and his ilk in churches espousing black liberation theology. As in "Cool Hand Luke," according to Obama, what we have here is failure to communicate. Unfortunately, not a single member of the press sought further elaboration from Obama on that point.UPDATE 4: Sweetness and Light has a copy of Obama's Trinity Letter.
Doug Ross says Obama finally swiftboated his church.
Although Chicago never made it to my "top ten" places to visit, it's now well below San Francisco and Gaza. What a cesspool!
ReplyDeleteI met a young, college-age black woman this week who, when asked, "Who's gonna get the nod? Hillary or Obama?" said, "I love them both, but Hillary's got the edge." For what it's worth.
ReplyDeleteWhat a smart man! He only had to get burned twice (with perhaps a third burn on the way if the "whitey"/Michelle Obama tape surfaces) to back away from the train wreck.
ReplyDeleteWish one could feel sincere at his leaving, like he's really disgusted instead of just being politically expeditious.
But the press says he's so BRIGHT to leave now.
I notice Drudge doesn't have it. Drudge doesn't post anything that might reflect badly on Obama.
ReplyDeleteBut Sex and the City, THAT's important. Maybe I'm done with Drudge, too.
Maybe this is how Obama deals with many situations. Gets punched in the face at a bar? Well, waiti for another punch or three then he'll fight back. Smoked a few doobies? Well, let's try a few more before we decided to put those down. Negotiating with terrorists and rogue leaders? Let them funnel money and weapons for a few more years until we send them a Clinton-esque, impotent missile attack.
ReplyDeleteGood for him, I knew he would, one of the things I like Obama is how he's always moving forward, learning. I hope he finds a church home (like Moody) where he can hear the biblical (not social) gospel. He seems to be a real truth-seeker (unlike McCain who's been sitting unbaptized in a Baptist church for 17 years without joining and won't answer a simple question whether he's accepted Jesus as Lord or Savior). I like how Obama learns from his mistakes and doesn't dig in like McCain.
ReplyDeleteSo McCain has to join a church? He has to pray? He has to find Jesus? He has to answer questions about his faith? Why Cindy?
ReplyDeleteAs long as John McCain doesn't sit in a church to listen to anti-American, racist, idiotic statements, I don't care what church he goes to or what God he believes in. Obama on the other hand has made his own bed and now he has to lie in it. He could have avoided all of this.
ReplyDeletei wouldn't trust this turf if he resigned from the Democrat Pary!
ReplyDeleteCindy, you are an idiot
ReplyDeletecranialoutlet, no, I'm not saying McCain has to go to church or to pray, just that I appreciate the authentic spiritual journey that Obama's on, as opposed to the hypocritical posturing of McCain who during the South Carolina primary made a point of saying he wasn't Episcopalian but Baptist (though baptism by immersion is required to join a Baptist church and he has been sitting in a Baptist church for 17 years without being baptized, a requirement to join his church) and also in South Carolina he repeatedly refused to say he accepted Jesus as his Lord or Savior--just would not answer the question --yet professes to be a Christian. Btw, the dispensationalist eschatology of Hagee happens to be the same of the Southern Baptist Convention. McCain's a hypocrite is all I'm saying.
ReplyDeleteThe Bible teaches that to hear and reject the Word makes one calloused to spiritual things. McCain's been exposed to the gospel message and hasn't accepted it, Obama's been exposed to community activism as gospel, probably never even heard a doctrinal message. Obama's always said he was a believer in the "social gospel," never pretended to be anything but that, Christianity for him was changing society.
Cindy, if McCain has been sitting in a Baptist church for 17 years and no one from the church has objected then perhaps baptism may not be a requirement. As I'm a Catholic I'm unsure what the requirements are but it would seem that those in that church would know. And I for one kinda like McCain not wearing his faith on his sleeve.
ReplyDeleteAs for Obama, his chickens came home to roost. You have to wonder if this second outburst was in some way a payback from Wright for Obama distancing himself. They have to understand this isn't helping Obama.
Golly, Jimmycrap, what utterly irrelevant horseshit are you going to write about now?
ReplyDeleteHere's a thought -- you could start writing about the actual issues facing this country. Nah... you're waaaaaaay too shallow to handle that.
Oh, yeah, you can always pursue your hobby of being al Qaeda's public relations outlet in North America...
Obama and his supporters claim that while he has less experience than his opponents,he is a good decision maker.
ReplyDeleteTook him two decades to decide on church membership.
A decade late and a nomination too short. This hypocrite thinks that by doing these things NOW, that he can erase the filth-mongering of his church? He must think Americans have amnesia or that they've lost their minds. The man's so-called mentors and spiritual guides are WORSE than anything the lunatic religious right has done and then he has the nerve to go out there yesterday and blast those guys...it's like the pot calling the kettle black. HOLY COW...WHAT a charlatan.
ReplyDeleteHere's a question for the City of Chicago, and the entire State of Illinois. How racist ARE you fools when catholic priests and black communists are allowed to freely spread this filth with no official comment? Illinois sucks! All you seem to produce are lefty trolls and anti-Americans. Perfect!
ReplyDeleteObama is shocked...shocked that these terrible things were being said in his church....and, and, and, those people...they looked like they were enjoying it all....
ReplyDeleteWhy, he had no idea that there were those kinds of things being felt and spoken there. After all, he only attended the church briefly...for 20 years, was married there, and worst of all exposed his young children to this vile hatred.....
What a pusillanimous, palavering, popinjay!!!
He knew darn well what the church's dogma was. He knew darn well what revs. Wright and Moss and Phleger were all about. Not only was it politically expedient for him to belong to trinity; it's warped, Marxist, form of Christianity, black liberation theology, conformed well to his red diaper baby upbringing as well as appealing to the ideals inculcated by his ultra left wing academic experience.
Oddly enough, this episode exposes Obama for the hypocritical, usurpacious, fair weathered friend type of individual he really is. His proclamation of being a new kind of politician practicing a whole new brand of politicks is pure poppycock!
The only thing remotely revolutionary about his campaign, besides the Marxist idealism exhibit by his Che Guevara loving campaign workers, is his campaign's brilliant use of the internet to produce at times what appear to be Orwellian mental lockstep and an ominous cult of personality. Otherwise, it is the traditional, opportunistic politics of useful friendships and sordid cloakroom pay-offs.
Most of the mainstream media will herald this as a "bold" move that will afford Obama a "fresh" start, unencumbered by any stigma of radical racist associations. In the usual fashion, they will declare that "the debate is over" and "the matter is closed". Any attempt to question him about his 20 years there will be dismissed as "dwelling on the past" or the perfunctory "distraction from the important issues".
What's really important is that if the tables were turned, and Maverick had sat idly by listening to the pontifications of the grand vizier of the KKK, or some other white supremacist, he would have been TOAST long ago. Not only do the mainstream media tolerate reverse racism, most outlets are actively engaged in trying to get Obama elected. I wonder if they really believe in him, or are they emulating the head of the Illinois state legislature; the man who decided he would play king maker and get Obama elected to the US senate. Exit question; are the mainstream media wanna-be king makers or simply useful idiots-you decide.............
What a load of horse shit (in my Texan lexicon) that both Obama, and Cindy, is trying to dish out.
ReplyDeleteObama admits in his own book that he was advised not to join Trinity by other Chicago black ministers. Why did he choose Trinity? Street cred. Pure and simple. And he didn't know about Pfleger? Give me a break; David Axelrod in on the parish committee. And Obama has known Pfleger as long as he has known Wright.
Now he praises Otis Moss, another loose cannon that is going to come back to bite him in the ass. Remember, Moss introduced Pfleger at services this past Sunday. Obama also managed to get $200,000.00 pork money for St. Sabina's, Pfleger's parish.
You will notice that Obama never said he was unaware of Pfleger's radicalism, like he first said about Wright, only to have to retract that.
Why is it that every associate of Obama's turns out to be a radical? When is he going to have to answer why he associated with these racist, terrorist, crooked people in the first place?
This is not about Obama per se but about those parishoners. Am I the only white person looking at all the black folks around me and wondering if they believe the same stuff? Blacks who AREN'T viciously anti-American must really hate what this Trinity Church and Obama have brought to light.
ReplyDeleteTo all the religious nutters: How about we don't ask any religion questions at all to our elected (and wanting-to-be elected) officials? I hire people in my company. I don't really care where, if anywhere they place their butts on Sunday morning. I want to know if they can do the job that they are being hire for. The same should apply to government jobs.
ReplyDeleteKeep religion out of politics and then people won't have to pretend to believe in this nonsense.
Who's next to go under the bus?
ReplyDeleteThe racist grandmother, the Pentagon bombing terrorist, or the white-hating wife?
Place your bets!
The TV ads just keep writing themselves.
ReplyDeleteHe's doing this now because he no longer needs 90%+ of the black vote in the primaries. This latest move may drop his black support to about 75% but I think blacks only make up less than 10% of the remaining primaries. He needs the non-black vote badly.
ReplyDelete"corsair the rational pirate said...
ReplyDeleteTo all the religious nutters: How about we don't ask any religion questions at all to our elected (and wanting-to-be elected) officials? I hire people in my company. I don't really care where, if anywhere they place their butts on Sunday morning. I want to know if they can do the job that they are being hire for. "
There is nothing religious about Obama and his "church" and I bet your liberal arse and company would not associate or hire a white supremists who went around talking vulgar about minorities and homosexuals, so spare us the blanket condemnations.
Just look in the mirror tonight and tell yourself it is okay you am going to vote for a racist and anti-semite because after all you are a "progressive" and you really looove Obama.
Did Michelle Obama also quit? Then he's hedging his bets again.
ReplyDeleteDrudge does have the Myway AP story at the top of his page. I used the tip form to ask him the same question as above.
"Although Chicago never made it to my "top ten" places to visit, it's now well below San Francisco and Gaza. What a cesspool!"
ReplyDeleteHonestly, that's the stupidest thing ever said here. Do you really think the whole city is Trinity Church? What major metropolis is pure enough for your exalted standards?
Peg C, there are plenty of Christian blogs by black Christians and by white Christians that can understand why people attend churches like TUCC. If you go over to the Reconciliation Blog you can browse around there and check out some of the links and get a feel for other ways of looking at this. Spiritual Politics blog also has good coverage.
ReplyDelete"authentic spiritual journey" Heh (tm) Cindy - what crack are you smoking and why aren't you sharing?
ReplyDeleteTagged, Jim.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful.
Obama is ready to stand up for America against the thugs of the world. He just couldn't stand up to the thugs in his own church for 20 years. A man of conviction? Change? Yeah right!
ReplyDelete"...Illinois sucks! All you seem to produce are lefty trolls and anti-Americans. Perfect!..."
ReplyDeleteA wholly ignorant statement. Bad mouth the entire state over some trash from the south side? Get over yourself, I'd be willing to bet the great state of Illinois has produced more brave soldiers than the meth-infested hick state of MO, "the blow me state."
All kidding aside though, I know most people from IL think like those anti-American rats like Obama and Rev. Wright (BOTH transplants by the way, they weren't born here like Reagan WAS!)
IL rules, besides all the corrupt politicians, and Chicago is great city in many ways, way better than St. Louis.
When it's become politically expedient, it's clear that Obama has no qualms about throwing his grandmother, his "crazy uncle" pastor, his controversial advisors, his aides and now his church under the bus.
ReplyDeleteIf he becomes President of the United States, will he throw this country under the bus as well? I can just see him bending over backwards to appease foreign leaders from Iran, China, Russia and the E.U.
We should not vote for moral cowards to become President of the US. Jimmy Carter anyone?
Glad to see Obama is focusing on what is really important.
ReplyDeleteGo to Iraq, Obama. Surely being the very genetic epitome of bipartisanship you can spare some to accept McCain's offer.
"...I know most people from IL think like those anti-American rats..."
ReplyDeleteLULZ, Whoops.
Most people from IL DON'T think like those anti-American rats Obama and Wright, the cancerous transplants IL received.
However, MO is meth-ridden, that statement stands.
Cindy:
ReplyDeleteIt would have taken me about half of one Sunday to move forward out of Trinity Church. You see, I grew up in one of those old fashioned Christian churches where a socalled spiritual journey did not include raving like a loon about how whitey nuked Hiroshima cause he is evil and he hates yellow people...or some such thing. No, silly us we talked about God and Jesus and the Golden Rule and all that quaint religious stuff.
I figured Obama would leave the church when he figured they had become more of a liability than a benefit. I guess that time has arrived.
And Cindy I have heard McCain refer to "our savior" for what it is worth.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the point of Obama going to Iraq?
ReplyDeleteApparently he can be somewhere for 20 years and come away with no clue of what was going on around him.
can someone take that"trumpet" cover and label all the wackos on it?(my apologies to those on the cover who arent)i see obama,wright and farrakhan...who are the others?(commies?jihad supporters?more faux christians?)it might make a nice lil pic to post all over the net*evil grin*
ReplyDeleteMcCain believes in the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman, and he is against the killing of the unborn. These are two attributes of a Christian, unlike Obama, who apparently is still on a learning curve of the most basic laws and statutes of the Bible. How long does a man, Obama, need to sit in church before he understands some basic Christian beliefs.
ReplyDeleteObama is no Christian in mind or spirit, and it is unfortunate that he sat in a racist church for over twenty years never learning or practicing to love his neighbour as himself - white or black.
Cindy is a troll! BHO is a piece of chit and she knows it!
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ReplyDeleteif the Obamessiah (aka: the Magic Negro as his Kenyan family has referred to him, namely cuz Odinga) miraculously wins the 08 election.. you can bet your life the White House basement will be full of people who ride under his bus along with with his Islamic/Marxist BLT ideology..
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ReplyDeletedid he "denounce" Pfleger??
how about Axelrod??
Wright, Farrakhan, Otis, etc??
Ayers, Dorhn, Rezko, Said, etc??
NO HE DIDN'T!!
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The Doctor of Democracy strikes again! Dittos GP. "Barak the Magic Negro" by Al Sharpton? Al Sharpton wishes he had a national media problem with his pastor. Unfortunately, Al has nothing going.
ReplyDeleteAbout McCain sitting "unbaptized in a Baptist church"... as I understand it, he was a cradle Episcopalian whose parents were devout. Isn't it more likely that he was baptized in that church as a baby and still considers that baptism valid,so that a second baptism as an adult would be unnecessary?
ReplyDeleteCindy,
ReplyDeleteWas Judas baptized? Was the thief to the right of Christ on the Cross baptized? Christ stated, "this day you will surely be with me in Paradise" to the thief on his right without baptism. To the thief on his left who mocked him, he left behind.
So while many baptist certainly believe in baptism as an official act of spiritual sacrament, Christ apparantly was not in favor of keeping people out based upon not being baptized. Yeshua unlike you Cindy can see in our hearts and know what is our most basic fundamental belief in Him.
McCain was baptized as a child. I was baptized as a child in the Methodist church, but now attend a Baptist church. They have not forced me to be baptized, though upon my own discretion I may elect baptism one day as an adult.
Maybe Cindy, you put to much spin into doctrinal issues you do not understand and not enough spin on lovingkindness and mercy.
If the "rev" Wright were to repent of his sins of inciting hatred, then he to is forgiven. But he refuses to stop hating others or even repent. He refuses to stop teaching the hatred of others by color. Do you not see the difference between the two men and their churches beliefs?
One is a question of sacrements of a man who has already been baptized by another denomination as a child. Another is a question of hatred, coveting thy neighbor, false teachings, deliberate lies and misleading the faithful into hatred of others by color as well as in covetness of othes which is strictly against Christ teachings. Cindy, what are the two most important instructions for life Christ revealed for even the Gentiles to know?
Today, if "rev" Wright, Moss, Pfelger would repent and change their actions, their words of hatred and stop preaching opposite of Christ teachings, surely they will be forgiven. Like all of us who must repent of our sins. It means true change in the heart.
Obama may have been baptized by a racist, angry, resentful, bitter anti-Christian, Marxist man. But obviously as is seen by Judas, G_d accepts only the truth of the heart, not outside actions. All our works are like rags to the truth of Christ. Truth is I do not know where Obama stands based upon his actions for 20 years. Or his actions as a politician to suddenly show concern about a racist church of hatred that he knew the very day of his Presidential announcement when he forced his Pastor to stay below ground so the cameras and reporters would not see him. He obviously knew what would happen, yet for 20 years did nothing. I at least give credit to Oprah for leaving that hate filled church.
For all I know Obama might be seriously waking up, or he may be just another sleezy politician.
McCain, unlike Obama did not the other party, the Democrats about their religion. Obama made it one of his major issues going into the campaign for Democrats believing they could win elections that way. He did win the Senate thru his racist Church leader.
But now, he's thrown two local pastors of his church, Catholic Priest Pfleger and his entire churc now under the bus. And for what gain? For national aspirations of power and "black greed." Still, he was able to funnel $200,000.00 to Pfleger before he threw him under the bus.
Who knows what else Obama has done in the past but I suspect this is only the beginning of his sordid history and connections.
Did McCain accuse Obama or the Democrats of "hijacking religion" and state that he will "take back religion from the right wing?"
Obama certainly did on the pulpit. He declared he would take religion back for the left. Sure he will. He is the false messiah afterall and the left for the most part follows false reasoning. They think religion is a tool to use even more so than some on the right and certainly respect it much less. That is why Obama thru all Pennsylvannia voters under the bus to the atheist, homosexual supporting crowd in San Fran. Everything for Obama is a matter of expediency for his path to power in our nation. He stand on shifting sands from state to state, city to city and now from church to church.
As for McCain's beliefs or pathway to Christ, or his church. This is nothing new and is well known by Christians who report on it openly to the public:
McCain's Pastor a Sharp Contrast to Obama's
You see, there is a way to be an adult with experience running for President. And then there is a way of behaving like a baby whining all the way into power saying, giveme, giveme, giveme.
Obama is a babe in the desert without an empty cross to hold on to. All he has is his greed and pride and hatred developed into his mind since childhood.
Can we as Christians pray for him? Certainly. But utilizing the discernment that Christ calls upon all of us to do, I personally cannot see how any Christian can vote for Obama once they understand his underlying motives, connections to Communism, and his anti-Christian actions against babies in and outside of the womb. This man is a walking idolator creating his own made-up G_d. His G_d might as well be a totem-pole stuck in the ground.
For a candidate with very few decisions to be judged by he makes too many errors. He speaks a lot, but when has to act he makes too many mistakes, IMHO. He is a bad politician.
ReplyDelete"It was worth than a crime, it was a mistake." Or something like this.
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ReplyDelete"McCain, unlike Obama did not (attack) the other party, the Democrats about their religion."
That is crucial to understand after 2004. All the Dems said they would start taking back religion from the right. Obama soared on his version of Marxist black theology while in Chi-town. Now it is all coming out of the darkness for all to see. And it is an ugly truth.
In a way Obama does speak some truth, but it is still wrapped up in his own hatred for "white greed" according to his own words and his actions of Marxist associations.
That the nation still has talking to do, some reconciliation between so-called races, a single switch of a mutation from each of us. But he is not the man to do it after sitting in a church of racist hatred for 20 years. The true reconciliation that needs to take place is in his own heart, in that of TUCC, his pastors and their members.
It is as G_d knows, always an individual matter of the heart. Our outward actions can be misleading and for purposes of gain in this world. We are all guilty one way or another at times of bad thoughts, deeds, actions.
But our leader(s) should not come from hypocrites like Obama to lecture us all on how to change when the log is still in his own eye.
anonymous 11:17,
ReplyDeleteCorrect, he was baptized as a child as are most.
But baptism obviously does not save us as in the case of Judas.
The article I posted from Christianity today briefly mentions the topic, but the pastor himself is not forcing the issue because obviously it is one of different doctrinal beliefs.
Cindy may think she's uncovered some dirt, but all she uncovered is exactly what millions of Christians go thru daily. There is a huge difference between that and a church known for preaching hatred and racism from the pulpit every Sunday, and political name calling out of specific candidates while at the pulpit.
It simply is not allowed. Nor do most Christians like it because we all have differing opinions on different candidates. Usually it is not a race issue. But Obama and his church turned it into one out of a sense of being owed something by whites.
Barak Obama is a very egotistical and ambitious man who desires power above all. he does not care who he has to sacrifice and walk over to get it. That alone would make him a dangerous man, combine this with his ideology and what you have is the makings of a dictator.
ReplyDeleteBut his ambition and lust for power trumps his supposed "intelligence". If he were as smart as everyone says he is he would have left that "church" 20 years ago. Apparently his ego blinds him to the fact that people are not as stupid as he thinks they are.
I wonder who he is going to toss under the bus next. He has thrown his grandmother, both his former "pastors" and his now former "church" under the bus.
The church has an altar not alter.
ReplyDeleteI keep waiting for the little car to drive up and Hussein, Michelle, Wright and the rest of the clowns to emerge, all red noses and big ears and floppy feet...
ReplyDeleteI guess the racist comments by Vanilla Ice's dad was the straw that broke the donkey's back.. I have never seen an election turn to racism like this one has, sickning.... But hey, It's the Democrat Party, what should i expect??
ReplyDeleteJoshua, don't get met wrong, I most certainly agree with you that baptism is not necessary to be a Christian or a member of "the" Church, but baptism by immersion is necessary to be a member of McCain's local church as his own pastor has explained and a sign of faith. I also have never said that Obama is (or is not) a Christian, since I've no indication that he even has heard the biblical gospel, much less beieves it. My point merely was authenticity vs hypocrisy which goes to general trustworthiness relevant in evaluating a candidate, and integrity between what one professes and what one lives out.
ReplyDeleteBona fides first. I am areligious (not atheist or agnostic) and was raised in a very Baptist area in a (mostlyl) Baptist family.
ReplyDeleteCindy, when you're ignorant it is probably wisest to not say anything, lest you reveal yourself as a fool.
There are, in most Baptist churces [I don't know all of them and they're wildly unorganized for the most part], differing levels of 'membership'. For instance, most Baptist churches vote democratically on an extremely wide variety of church activities, including which minister to extend a call to, where to send offerings, where to spend church funds and so on. In most of these Baptist churches, to vote on such things one must be baptized in the Baptist faith (which is always, to my knowledge, an adult decision [i.e. most Baptist churches will not recognize baptism of non-adults, partly by age and partly by demonstrating an adult understanding of what's involved]) and not necessarily in that particular Baptist Church.
OTOH, one can also be a 'member' of the Baptist church by attending church functions and behaving as a good Christian (Baptist branch). The difference is you (probably) won't be allowed to vote on (some, at least) church matters. Everyone in the church will still recognize you as a 'member' just one who hasn't made a specific decision for Christ yet. [They will worry a bit about you and attempt to assist you in making that decision, though, although I've never known them to be all that pushy about it. They will also pray for you and for your finding Christ in your heart. My family and friends back home still pray this way for me [and occasionally remind me, gently, that they do], and I appreciate it as part of what makes them 'good' Baptists.
You see, Cindy, Baptists don't regard their churches (especially the mere buildings) as museums for saints so much as hospitals for sinners. They recognize *everyone* as a sinner in need of redemption, even those who have been baptized. In fact, Baptism only washes you of Original Sin for some. You are still responsible for your current and future sins (which they expect you to make).
It's all about attitude, I suppose, and the difference between McCain's Baptist church and Obama's UCC church couldn't be much more stark no matter how much you ignorantly attempt to muddy the waters.