-- Obama compares Israel to the African-American exodus and talks about Israel's "infection" on our foreign affairs.
Jeffrey Goldberg held a very revealing interview with Barack Obama over the weekend that is posted at The Atlantic website.
This interview is going to get some play...
Right off the bat, Obama romanticizes about the kibbutz communities in Israel.

(kibbutz 41)
A kibbutz is a form of communal living that combines socialism and Zionism.
Surprised?
Then, Obama likens the reality of Israel to the "African-American story of exodus"(?):
I think the idea of Israel and the reality of Israel is one that I find important to me personally. Because it speaks to my history of being uprooted, it speaks to the African-American story of exodus, it describes the history of overcoming great odds and a courage and a commitment to carving out a democracy and prosperity in the midst of hardscrabble land.Is anyone else a little confused with that?
What does the founding of Israel have to the African-American story of exodus?
Is that the slave trade he's talking about?
That definitely sounds like something he picked up during one of the black liberation theology lessens at his Trinity Church.
And, when Obama is asked if Israel is a drag on American foreign policy?
You won't believe his answer:
Jeff Goldberg:--- Do you think that Israel is a drag on America’s reputation overseas?It is no accident that Barack Obama has the most liberal record in the US Senate.
Barack Obama:--- No, no, no. But what I think is that this constant wound, that this constant sore, does infect all of our foreign policy. The lack of a resolution to this problem provides an excuse for anti-American militant jihadists to engage in inexcusable actions, and so we have a national-security interest in solving this, and I also believe that Israel has a security interest in solving this because I believe that the status quo is unsustainable. I am absolutely convinced of that, and some of the tensions that might arise between me and some of the more hawkish elements in the Jewish community in the United States might stem from the fact that I’m not going to blindly adhere to whatever the most hawkish position is just because that’s the safest ground politically.
I want to solve the problem, and so my job in being a friend to Israel is partly to hold up a mirror and tell the truth and say if Israel is building settlements without any regard to the effects that this has on the peace process, then we’re going to be stuck in the same status quo that we’ve been stuck in for decades now, and that won’t lift that existential dread that David Grossman described in your article.
The notion that a vibrant, successful society with incredible economic growth and incredible cultural vitality is still plagued by this notion that this could all end at any moment -- you know, I don’t know what that feels like, but I can use my imagination to understand it. I would not want to raise my children in those circumstances. I want to make sure that the people of Israel, when they kiss their kids and put them on that bus, feel at least no more existential dread than any parent does whenever their kids leave their sight. So that then becomes the question: is settlement policy conducive to relieving that over the long term, or is it just making the situation worse? That’s the question that has to be asked.
His answers to these questions are just plain frightening.
And, you know he has no idea how Far Left wacky he sounds. In fact he will probably be shocked, shocked to see how readers are going to react to his latest rant.
UPDATE: Doug Ross says this sounds a lot like Ahmadinejad.
(Also- the title to this post was updated.)
UPDATE 2: Oh, and it is just hunky-dory for Obama to use his middle name to puff his status with Islamofascists but it is absolutely forbidden for us to point it out.
Hat Tip Larwyn
UPDATE 3: Jennifer Rubin offered this from the Republican Jewish Coalition:
Once again, Senator Obama demonstrates his questionable grasp of America’s foreign policy. Senator Obama manages to excuse the inexcusable actions of anti-American militant jihadists by putting the blame for their actions on America’s foreign policy. America stands with Israel because it is one of our strongest allies and the only democracy in the Middle East. Senator Obama naively believes that solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will solve the global scourge of radical Islamic extremism. Yet Senator Obama never says how he will reign in Hamas’ daily onslaught on Israel or Iran’s scurrilous condemnations of Israel. Is it any wonder Hamas has endorsed him for president?”
And, you know he has no idea how Far Left wacky he sounds. In fact he will probably be shocked, shocked to see how readers are going to react to his latest rant.
ReplyDeleteOf course they won't understand it. They live in the echo chamber known as the "reality-based community".
/passes GP the popcorn...
I still do not think he will even get the nomination at the rate he is going.
the African-American story of exodus
ReplyDeleteGood lord.
The man's mother is/was a white American woman and his father was/is an African here on a visitor visa.
What does the African-American story of exodus have to do with Obama?
Nothing.
You might be right, Nahanni.
ReplyDeleteHe needs to shut her down until mid-June.
...passes popcorn back to Nahanni.
Jewish people will vote for him in November anyway. They're completely brainwashed to believe that Republicans are right-wing nuts and right-wing nuts are fascists - just like Hitler. Obama could announce he's going to herd all American Jews into camps and Jews would still vote for him because he's the Democrat candidate. Rational thought is not very popular these days.
ReplyDelete"I want to make sure that the people of Israel, when they kiss their kids and put them on that bus, feel at least no more existential dread than any parent does whenever their kids leave their sight."
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Obama was thinking about how his wife has fear everytime he goes to the gas station just because he is a black man which is the answer Michelle Obama gave to an interview (Barbara Walters?) last year when asked if she worried about Obama's safety because he was running for POTUS. According to his pastor, black Americans should live in fear when they put their kids on the bus because evil Whitey might harm them.
And African Americans carved a democracy and gained prosperity out of hardscrabble land? Did they all move to the Mohave desert? When did that happen? 1866? 1870? I must have missed that chapter in my American history class.
I thought he was a smart guy? He sounds like just another idiot!
ReplyDeleteContrary to what "tweedburst" says above, I think there's a slow bleed already going on when it comes to the Jewish Democrat vote. Almost every day, Obama provides yet another reason for many Jews to consider voting for McCain in the fall. They may not be crazy about all of McCain's positions, but they do know he'll be a staunch friend of Israel--unlike Prince Charming.
ReplyDeleteI suspect if Obama gets the nomination, he will receive the lowest percentage of the Jewish vote ever for a Donk candidate.
So, first he says the status quo is unsustainable.
ReplyDeleteThen he says they will be stuck in the same status quo that they have been stuck in for decades (which suggests that it is, in fact sustainable).
Then he wonders whether the status quo is making it worse (which suggests that it is not, then, status quo).
Kinda like that guy in The Princess Bride who keeps on saying "Inconceivable!". Gotta wonder if he knows how to use the term "status quo".
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ReplyDeleteI think someone (meat beater) needs a time out...
ReplyDeleteHey meat beater do the ward nurses know you are playing with one of the computers?
I will never understand why you put up with that asshole.
ReplyDeletebrainLESS, I mean. obama, no one should put up with.
Oh hey, brainLESS? The trend the last 30 years is, quite naturally, Up.
Or it was until it began falling nearly ONE full degree over the past year and a bit. Gotta love natural cycles!
Soooo...he wants to talk to terrorist states and organizations that are devoted to the destruction of Israel, but he's all for defending Israel? Sounds a lot like Carter, and that's not a compliment.
ReplyDeleteExcellent post. Thank you for posting it. I linked back to it on my site because the Obamaniacs are coming out of the woodwork and I didn't even turn the lights on yet.
ReplyDelete"...The lack of a resolution to this problem provides an excuse for anti-American militant jihadists to engage in inexcusable actions, and so we have a national-security interest in solving this..."
ReplyDeleteAny moron who thinks "discussion" will solve this problem, is just that, a moron.
Barack doesn't even know how many states there are, let alone the intricacies of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
I'm sorry, Barack is indeed Israel's worst nightmare! No amount of psychotic copy & pasting by some idiot named 'meatbrain' can change the truth.
Nice try at spin meatbrain, but the fact stays, barack will be a DISASTER for Israel.
Barack wants to have discussions with a man who said...
"Israel will vanish from the pages of time"
& most recently on Israel's 60th b-day
"Israel is a rotting, stinking corpse"
&
"The israeli regime is dying, and its end is near"
Barack is a moron, he wants to talk with the modern day HITLER!!!
Beware Israel, beware, Muhammad's horse (was named burak) will be your doom.
-Kastrioti
You don't understand. According to the Reverend Wright, the Exodus story in the bible is only black. Rumors to the effect that it originated from Jewish sources are that, only rumors. And the Reverend Wright knows best.
ReplyDelete/passes the popcorn to GP
ReplyDeleteI feel like the Michelin man with all the popcorn I've had, GP. 8D
GP,
Obama has an ego the size of Pangea. What is worse is that it is fairly obvious that he has bought into the hype that he is the "messiah".
He is surrounded by advisers, staff and worshipers who constantly praise him and the MSM who is in the tank for him. All the Hollywood types swoon at the mere mention of his name. Even the Obamaniac trolls on various message boards have that "Peoples Temple" kind of creepiness about them.
There is no one who is around him is going to tell him "Hey, if you want to even get the nomination you better STFU now because you are committing political suicide. Oh, put some duct tape over your wife's mouth, too-kthxbye."
This is not surprising out of someone who got all the political offices handed to him by the Chicago Democratic party machine. He is a rank amateur and a person unaccustomed to having to worry about not getting elected. In this case I think that the Obamaniac wing of the party thinks that they will be able to get him nominated and elected no matter what he says or does. I think they are in for a very rude awakening.
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ReplyDeleteThe incredible moral equivalence displayed here is just amazing. That BHO could suggest that the whole Mid-east situation could be resolved if the Isrealis ceased building new settlements is just so fantastic, that I'm going to start buying popcorn stocks.
ReplyDeleteOh come on, he's not talking about "the" Exodus. African-Americans did come out from somewhere you know! Unlike McCain-praised Condoleeza Rice who empathized with the Palestinians in relating her experience as an African-American with them, saying "I know what it's like to be discriminated against and powerless" and equating Israel's actions of self-defense with terrorism in the US South, Obama is actually empathizing with Israel here relating the African-American diaspora experience with the Jewish experience, specifically noting commonalities as "overcoming great odds," "courage," and "commitment." In other words, he's praising Israel!
ReplyDeleteThough I personally don't think any Jewish community in the disputed territories needs to be given up, McCain's people are right now in the process of making the whole thing happen--pressuring Israel to give up land for paper peace. McCain's got nothing on Obama when it comes to this, one of his very best friends and probably cabinet member (Mideast Envoy Jones) is behind much of this.
/I'll take some popcorn, too, btw. - ER
FYI: The best angle on this interview piece is Ed Morrisey's over at Hot Air. In the interview, Obama wants voters to believe he supports Israel based on his many Jewish friends and supporters in Chicago. Well, by that reasoning, we should all be able to determine a lot more about what Obama really supports by his OTHER friends and supporters...like the good Rev and Billy Ayers. Morrisey hit a homer with this one. My paraphrase is crummy by comparison.
ReplyDeleteWow, hope everyone enjoyed mother's day. Happy day to all the Mom's.
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I see the appropriately named troll returns -
BrainlessMeat,
Did you see the link to the interview provided by GP? Those of us who comprehend "links" - doh! - click them and read! And we form our own opinions. And comment on the interview.
"Jeffrey Goldberg held a very revealing interview with Barack Obama over the weekend that is posted at The Atlantic website"
Paging - troll. See above link to the article. We do not need teen-angst drivel from a trollerbot to make angry rants about context. It appears you are the only one who did not click on the link. Or... did you?
Wise up and stop being a hater.
back on subject, must stop feeding trollbots.
ReplyDeleteDescribing Israel policy as a "sore," a "constant wound" will be utilized by both sides. Those who stand by Israel's right to exist will see it as a terrible description for the issues at hand. Those who stand on right of return and annihilation of Israel, will agree and legitimize such remarks by Obama.
I stand on side of stand firm and take back Gaza if you must Israel.
I think it is disgusting to equate Israel policy with such derogatory remarks by a Presidential candidate. But he can't help himself. 20 years of "rev" Wright and his own muddled beliefs, prevent him from seeing reality.
Even when he lies thru his teeth praising Jews IMO, the truth comes out in small ways thru betrayal of his own lips.
Why not describe Hamas terrorist as the wound? If he's describing settlements on lands won in a war as some open wound. When the wars were started by Arab nations(8?) against Israel. Then he should describe the terrorist as cancer or tumors. Or the norovirus that causes vomitting and diarhea?
Frankly, as I stated. I'd move the terrorist backwards every single time they lobbed another rocket into Israel. Enough games. Enough appeasement. Enough "compromise." American policy is holding back Israel. If not for our dependency on Middle East oil, this would be a no brainer - kill terrorist. No compromise. Take the enemy camp and land, keep the high ground.
The only wounds are by the continuous rockets fired by terrorist. The only open sore is giving Gaza over to Hamas.
Israel built a beautiful area with some of the worlds most desirable flowers, fruits and vegetables. And what did Hamas do? Wreck and burn them. Israel built an oasis in the desert and the Arab, racist haters burned it all to hell. They turned some of the best gardens in the world into a maze of rat holes and tunnels.
The butchers supported by Syria, Iran and all the other Islamic Middle East countries are the virus of hatred. They are the true infection. If one wants to speak in such terms.
A viral outbreak of hatred from the day Mohammed heard his first insane voice. A voice that changed with the winds at night and changed again on the next full moon. A crazed lunatic that said it was OK to worship female fertility moon gods, then changed his mind. The same guy who said it is OK to lie to infidels.
Maybe everyone needs to be reminded of OBama's friend Ali Abunimah. Of Hamas... who is stated as saying OBama told him they'd have to cool support of Hamas in the elections.
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"As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, 'Hey, I’m sorry I haven’t said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race.
'Hey, I’m sorry I haven’t said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race.'
I’m hoping when things calm down I can be more up front.' He referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy [and said:] 'Keep up the good work!'"
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And more...
The Arab-American activist went on to say: "In 2000, when Obama unsuccessfully ran for Congress I heard him speak at a campaign fundraiser hosted by a University of Chicago professor. On that occasion and others Obama was forthright in his criticism of US policy and his call for an even-handed approach to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict."
"Obama's about-face is not surprising," Abunimah wrote. "He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power."
When Obama first ran for the Senate in 2004, the Chicago Jewish News interviewed him on his stance regarding Israel's security fence. He accused the Bush administration of neglecting the "Israeli-Palestinian" situation and criticized the security fence built by Israel to prevent terror attacks: "The creation of a wall dividing the two nations is yet another example of the neglect of this Administration in brokering peace," Obama was quoted as saying.
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The Wall saved lives. If Israel had listened to Obama back then, how many innocent Israeli civilians, women, children be dead today?
I think Israel tolerating any rockets and terrorist acts being used against them should have immediate retaliation with the level of fire and man power appropriate to eliminate Hamas and still protect the Palestinian civilians. Until Hamas is dealt with, there will be no advantage to any peace talks whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteThe issue with Israel taking more land, whether perceived through imagination or reality by Palestianians can be dealt with after Hamas or any other terrorist organization no longer exists. Giving more land to Palestinians only means that their terrorist groups have better access for their rockets to hit more advantageous targets.
I think Israel should untie her hands and determine her own future. No one should expect Israel to tolerate terrorist acts without retaliation to those who commit them.
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