But, Barack Obama wants to do this without making the terrorist mastermind, who has admitted several times that he was behind the 9-11 attacks, look like a martyr(?)
Isn't martyrdom what these radical Islamists desire?
And, isn't it shocking that Obama does not understand this?
Rudy Giuliani responded to Obama's 9-10 plan on fighting terror:
Rudy Giuliani: "Time has proven that being on offense is better than being on defense."
Reuters reported tonight on the Osama-Obama show trials:
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says if Osama bin Laden is captured alive, the United States should bring him to justice but in a way that avoids turning the al Qaeda leader into a martyr.We are sooo screwed!
"The record shows that George Bush and John McCain have been weak on terrorism," Obama told reporters. "Their approach has failed. Because of their policies, we are less safe, less respected, and less able to lead the world."
Asked by a reporter how he would proceed if bin Laden were caught during his presidency, Obama said "we may not be able to capture him alive."
"It does not make sense for me to speculate in terms of what the best approach would be in trying him and bringing him to justice," Obama said.
"I think what would be important would be for us to deal with him in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in and not to make him into a martyr," he added. "And to assure that the United States government is abiding by basic conventions that would strengthen our hand in the broader battle against terrorism."
Obama, who has sharply criticized the use of the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba to hold suspected terrorists, talked of the Nuremberg trials set up after World War II to prosecute Nazi war criminals as an example of how justice could be administered in keeping with a "universal set of principles."
After all of the evidence against Bin Laden is it really America's place to "make the world understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in?" Do you think if people don't understand that by now that they will after a show trial with Ramsey Clark? Does Obama think an Osama show trial will finally force the Truthers change their minds, too?
Saddam Hussein Defense Attorney Democrat Ramsey Clark must love Barack Obama.
Only a Far Left liberal would believe that bringing Osama Bin Laden to court would not turn into a media circus with Osama running the show and the media being his willing pawns.
The Left's favorite partisan/bi-partisan documents the 9-11 Report even said bringing terrorists to court would be a very dangerous idea.
The 9-11 Report warned about treating terrorists as common criminals (Page 73):
The law enforcement process is concerned with proving the guilt of persons apprehended and charged. Investigators and prosecutors could not present all the evidence of possible involvement of individuals other than those charged, although they continued to pursue such investigations, planning or hoping for later prosecutions.The process was meant, by its nature, to mark for the public the events as finished—case solved, justice done. It was not designed to ask if the events might be harbingers of worse to come. Nor did it allow for aggregating and analyzing facts to see if they could provide clues to terrorist tactics more generally—methods of entry and finance, and mode of operation inside the United States.Is America willing to go back to the days of treating Islamic extremists as common criminals?
How absolutely frightening!
The more you get to know the most liberal senator the more he scares the bejeesuz out of you.
Astute Bloggers believes Obama will backtrack on this statement too in a matter of days.
Hmmm... so what does Obama's circus world look like?
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VP-Diddy = Golly Green Goracle
NSA = Winnie the Pooh Danzig
SecState = Jimmah Cawter
Dep SecState = Zbigniew Brzezinski
SecDefense = ColdBlooded Murtha
AttorneyGen = Ramsey Clark
PressSec = Whoopie Goldberg
DirOfVetAffairs = John Kerry
From one hat to another:
Three DNC Amigo Losers
Three hats for three ring circus leaders...
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ReplyDelete["The record shows that George Bush and John McCain have been weak on terrorism," Obama told reporters. "Their approach has failed. Because of their policies, we are less safe, less respected, and less able to lead the world."]
well ain't this something..
there's the ever growing list of "(fill in the blank) is not the same (fill in the blank) i knew" (not to mention the line still forming at the Obama bus stop)..
then there's the other standard "quagmire", "civil war", "gulag", "less safe", "less respected", "the war is lost", "cold blooded murderers", "failed policy", "stuck in Iraq", "Genral Betrayus", "willing suspension of belief", yada, yada, yada list..
what does that say about the Democratic Party if not F**K YOU & THOSE WHO PROTECT US AMERICA!!
where's my ak47? gah!!
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Debbie always does a great job turning up what everyone ignores in the media...
ReplyDeleteI forgot to add to Obama's Cabinet
Special Counsel to Jerusalem:
Imam Hasan Qazwini
These are only gueses, others may have better suggestions.
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ReplyDeleteEarth to Obama..
if you think the US (not to mention the rest of the world) was "safer" & America was "respected" pre 9/11.. i hear there's a bridge you can purchase at a discount if Rezko (or his wife) buys the conjoining bridge..
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ReplyDeleteBush made the world a safer place
excerpts:
[The postwar history of our continent would be different and less benign if the United States had heeded that message. His office, and the system of collective security from which we benefit, would be justification enough to welcome President Bush's visit to London this week. But there is an additional reason peculiar to the Bush presidency. For all Bush's verbal infelicity, diplomatic brusqueness, negligence in planning for post-Saddam Iraq, and insouciance regarding standards of due process when prosecuting the war on terror, the world is a safer place for the influence he has exercised.]
[Whoever succeeds Bush as president will benefit from some decisions well conceived if often badly executed. So will America's allies.]
it's not pretty, but RTWT anyways..
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BG,
ReplyDeleteThat would be M16 or M4 :)
"Obama told reporters. ( I am about to tell you a bunch of lies, please repeat this for me to the masses of people that like to keep their hands over their eyes and ears )"
Lie #1
"Their approach has failed. Because of their policies..."
Answer:
Bush and Congress when Dems were united with the rest of us...
Have now freed 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq. Going on the Offensive killing 10,000s of terrorist and capturing 100,000s including some directly responsible for 9/11.
Lie #2 "...we are less safe..."
Answer:
There has been no significant bombings since 9/11 domestically or around the world against America. Prior to 9/11 there were mutliple bombings from Kenya to Khobar Towers, from Lebanon to WTC 93. Instead of waiting to be hit again, Bush is hitting the terrorist. Istead of Clinton's police action, the Gunslinger has killed thousands of enemy rats.
Obama would return us back to Jimmy Carter days of malaise, worse even than Clinton.
Lie #3 "... less respected,"
Answer:
Yet another buffoonish statement by a rank amateur on foreign affairs. Feelings... have nothing to do with trade, politics and war.
Obama is talking about feelings, more like flattery, not RESPECT. Today, the world respects us more than ever prior to 9/11. We were a paper tiger to our enemies. Today, we are a lion. Taliban, al qaeda, and Iranian thugs are on the run w/ thousands captured and killed. From Indonesia to Africa, Iraq to Afhanistan, Londonstan to Paris, Germany and Algiers, terrorist have been rolled up around the world since 9/11.
Prior to 9/11 we were not aware of enemy infiltration - we were all blind to it. Today, 60 millions Americans kept a good man in office to keep fighting the war. Thank God.
Obama is an idiot or worse - a liar. I've decided he is a "cold blooded" liar.
Nato and World leaders stand with us in Afghanistan and many in Iraq as well. Europe has recently broken away from leftist and communist. Pro American Leaders in Western Europe - Sarkozy, Merkel, Berlusconi, and another one - ???? - now support us.
Red Commie Ken was defeated in London, plus Commie Veltroni in Rome. This is a first ever since WWII!
tip: AmericanThinker
Lie #4
"... and less able to lead the world."
Answer:
Today NATO has its largest ever group of soldiers in combat since WWII outside of Europe and is becoming more hawkish daily against Iran due to America's leadership under Bush. In fact nations from around the world work with America in the Terrorist War in all areas of support, intelligence, war and diplomacy.
This has been the Largest Combined Scale of Nations in history to work together against a common enemy. Bigger than WWII!
This time, Japan, Germany and Italy are on our side and both have contributed troops. Even nations like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Qatar have been crucially involved in the Terrorist War.
Oh and Afganistan and Iraq are now our allies!
LOL! What a buffooooooooon!
Obama = David Axlerod's Fantasy Player for Politics.
Who is Axlerod? And why is he the King Maker of Obama and Mass Govenor? How in the world did Axlerod ever get so much power?
I wish someone would look into his complete background. He's a snake.
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["The record shows that George Bush and John McCain have been weak on terrorism," Obama told reporters. "Their approach has failed. Because of their policies, we are less safe, less respected, and less able to lead the world."]
sounds awfully familiar..
could swear i've heard similar spiels from Usama, Amadjerkkoff, Carter, and a few other despots, not to mention the glass ceiling gang..
and it certainly wouldn't be the first time Obama has been caught plaigerizing something someone else said or wrote..
i'd also like to know where we can find this "record" Obama seems to be privy to??
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ReplyDeleteIt is beyond Michael Moore-land propaganda. It is like Pravda in Russia. In fact, that may be where Moore got his schtick from, Pravda.
They'll say anything and some truly dumb, blind, uninformed people will believe it.
More from American Thinker article and Communist fans of Obama - Italy - Vertroni...
"The last mayor of Rome, Walter Veltroni, had been the leader of the Left in the recent general election in Italy against Berlusconi. Veltroni was once a communist and remains a professed atheist who was proud to be called one of the earliest supporters of Barack Obama and who wrote the preface to the European edition of Obama's book, The Audacity of Hope.
Boy them atheist sure do pick well. WTG blind Darwinian robots.
"George Clooney was a big fan of Veltroni, saying that "Like Obama, I think Veltroni has a rare quality, a great oratory ability which can bring people together."
LOL! Clooney endorses a Commie because of his "great oratory ability." Ha! And again - the uniter garbage mantra from clueless idiots. I hope Clooeny is endorsing Obama!
"Unsurpisingly, Veltroni has also taken potshots at President Bush."
Doh! A commie attacks the leader of the free world - go figure! Doh!
"Veltroni was not particularly hostile to Israel -- Italians and Americans have historically been very sympathetic to Israel -- but his support is not nearly as strong as Berlusconi, who was a rock solid supporter of President Bush in his war on Islamic extremism."
Go Berlusconi! :)
"Berlusconi also placed Fiamma Nirenstein, a Jewish author and anti-terrorism expert, a strong supporter of the war in Iraq and a solid friend of America and Israel, high enough on his ballot so that she will be in the next Italian Parliament as a member of the majority coalition."
Again, another great move! Italians get it! But what did the Commie Rats do?
"Communists in Italy pointedly tried to keep Nirenstein from winning, running blatantly anti-Semitic cartoons of her as "Fiamma Frankenstein" with a Star of David on one lapel and the Fascist emblem on the other."
So the Fascist Commies are calling others what they are themselves.
Obama's friends around the world.
Pfffft. full article:
Commies defeated in Europe
For George Clooney:
ReplyDeleteOther great Orators and Uniters:
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Fidel, PolPot. Chavez....
hollywood tools on the left for commies...
A reason we need to support different actors, films, directors, producers... so cluess dolts like Clooney are countered by others in movies and hollwood shows so society and children see opposing views.
That its cool to be Conservative or Christian and great scientist, philosophers, atheletes too.
"For years, movie studio executives have decided what you will or will not watch. Now, that control is in your hands"
This will be revolutionary if we all join in.
You Decide
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Larry Elder
[As a result of Bush's commitment to democracy and his initiatives combating HIV and AIDS, the President enjoys near rock-star status in many African countries. And NATO, thanks to Bush's prodding, swelled from 19 members to 26, admitting in 2004 Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia.]
On Africa Trip, Bush Finds More Receptive Audiences
excerpt:
[Liberia
In her song "Thank You," Liberian singer Juli Endee thanks Bush for democracy, rule of law, and debt relief. Endee told The Associated Press recently "if you were to take a survey, you would find that there is not one Liberian that doesn't love George Bush."]
Albania Loves Bush
excerpt:
[Thank you heartily, Mr. President, from the bottom of our hearts, fulfilling ardent and long-awaited wish of all Albanians to have a special guest in their home. Tungjatjeta -- an Albanian word, means "may you have a long life." This is a most traditional greeting of Albanians that I chose to greet you on their behalf, on behalf of Albanians. Welcome to Albania, President Bush.]
India loves America
excerpt:
[America turned out to be the most popular in India, with its ratings rising up to 71 per cent, up from 54 per cent in the summer of 2002, in the survey conducted by an independent body - the Pew Research Centre - over 16 nations to assess favourabilty ratings of five major countries.]
[chart in comments by CarrotAndStick]
there's more (maybe i'll get around to them tomorrow)..
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Rudy is exactly right. Been there, tried that, failed beyond belief.
ReplyDeleteIn 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed.
We treated it like a police action and even then, we botched the investigation, letting one suspect, not only go but flee the country.
We didn't investigate the networks. We didn't disrupt the money supply.
We didn't follow the chain of command. We refused the offer to give us Bin Laden. (here, I suspect all the Obama supporters are cheering because we didn't have enough evidence and Clinton obeyed the rule of law) however the Bush supporters are probably now thinking of the hundreds of thousands who died because Clinton wanted to protect one terrorist's legal rights instead of protecting thousands of people who had the right to live.
This is all thinking that led up to 9/11. We didn't know any better however if now, that we do know better, we return to failed policies of the past, then we are just doomed to repeat the same mistakes again.
On 9/10, we felt safe. We were not. Today we are more aware of our vulnerabilities however in reality we are safer and that in large part, is thanks to President Bush, who did what he had to do to protect the American people and made that his priority.
The devastation of al Qaeda in Iraq and the establishment of their reputation throughout the Muslim world as mindless extremists who try to win a war by purposely killing innocent Muslims, rather than fighting Americans head-on, has made the world a much safer place.
ReplyDeleteAnd anyone who claims otherwise is a partisan loon.
Let me get this straight, b/c yet again, you conservatives seem to be all confused:
ReplyDeleteYou're complaining that Obama wants to bring bin Laden to court and treat him in a way that DOES NOT make him appear to be a martyr.
Instead, you would prefer to treat him in a way that does make him a martyr, giving him exactly what he wants.
If that's not what you all want, then you really need to reread the original post and actually think about what you've written.
Basically, you people have a problem with the following Obama statement:
"I think what would be important would be for us to deal with him in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in and not to make him into a martyr," he added. "
Read it carefully and actually think about what he's saying. The irony is that anything you people advocate would actually turn bin Laden into a martyr and fuel more hatred.
Oh, the reign of neocon stupidity continues unabated! This is why John McSame will lose in November. People are sick and tired of the neocon lies and neocon crap... well, people other than idiot neocons.
Tass,
ReplyDeleteExcellent comments..
OBama would take us back to 9/10. Even worse, his goal is to weaken our nations defenses.
Anonymous Obama Robotron 5:59am
ReplyDeleteYou moronic Dimwitted Twit.
Your reading comprehension level is 4th grade at best.
On second thought after rereading your Obama-tron drivel, maybe your reading skilzzzz are at lower levels.
Some advice, Go back to LaLaLand.
Turn on TeleTubbies and let the adults deal with the problems of the world today.
Maybe Winnie The Pooh is good analogy for understanding terrorist too as related to a defensive strategy?
Winnie The Pooh Obama
Joshua:
ReplyDeleteCare to elaborate on how I'm misreading what the post said? Or is your only talent calling people names when you have nothing else to say?
Why don't you explain how it is that I'm not reading the post correctly? How am I not understanding what Obama is saying?
Your response should be humorous.
I eagerly await it.
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re: [You're complaining that Obama wants to bring bin Laden to court and treat him in a way that DOES NOT make him appear to be a martyr]
guess you haven't heard the news.. that "bad guys are martyrs" image is passé in the Muslim world.. iow: it doesn't work for the bin Laden terrorists rock star image anymore..
most especially in Iraq where the new "martyrs" are those brave & courageous souls who have lost their lives in the war against said terrorists.. (thumbsup)
ps: bet you didn't know that Iraq declared herself a staunch ally in the GWOT..
you know, that inconvenient "bumper sticker" war..
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one more thing..
the only thing Obama is attempting to do is resurrect & revive both his party & bin Laden's status in the world..
but it's too late, just as Obama is a member of the Democratic "party no more" ilk, bin Laden is a member of the terroristic "martyr no more" ilk..
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"I think what would be important would be for us to deal with him in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in and not to make him into a martyr"
ReplyDeleteWhat I find astoundingly naive is you think it is going to make a bit of difference to his supporters.
Or do you think he will not be a martyr if he is executed after a trial?