The American Left sure doesn't want to see those soldiers praying when their lives are in danger. It would be offensive.
(Ceese.net)
Well, it's been at least two months.
It must be time to drag out the mainstream media's favorite atheist soldier- Jeremy Hall.
Of course, there is nothing new to the story.
It is just the liberal media's way of attacking two of its enemies, the US military and Christianity, in the same article... again.
It's a cost saver-- a more efficient way of reporting the propaganda.
Today it's CNN's turn:
In March, Hall filed a federal lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Defense and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, among others. In the suit, Hall claims his rights to religious freedom under the First Amendment were violated and suggests that the United States military has become a Christian organization.Previously:
"I think it's utterly and totally wrong. Unconstitutional," Hall said.
Hall said there is a pattern of discrimination against non-Christians in the military.
Two years ago on Thanksgiving Day, after refusing to pray at his table, Hall said he was told to go sit somewhere else. In another incident, when he was nearly killed during an attack on his Humvee, he said another soldier asked him, "Do you believe in Jesus now?"
Hall isn't seeking compensation in his lawsuit -- just the guarantee of religious freedom in the military. Eventually, Hall was sent home early from Iraq and later returned to Fort Riley in Junction City, Kansas, to complete his tour of duty.
He also said he missed out on promotions because he is an atheist.
"I was told because I can't put my personal beliefs aside and pray with troops I wouldn't make a good leader," Hall said.
Michael Weinstein, a retired senior Air Force officer and founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, is suing along with Hall. Weinstein said he's been contacted by more than 8,000 members of the military, almost all of them complaining of pressure to embrace evangelical Christianity.
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If they laid a carpet down and prayed to Allah instead, they would be stars. What a disgrace
ReplyDeleteDoesn't religious freedom include the right to have faith, as well as the right not to?
ReplyDeleteGreat photo, btw.
This is the 1% of the troops that they support.
ReplyDeleteTo assert that Hall is attempting to "ban Christianity and praying" from the military is ludicrous. There is obvious discrimination against his atheism, and he has the right to refrain from prayer without discrimination. Clearly, all he's asking for is to be treated fairly, not to ban any form of religion.
ReplyDeleteHe isn't even seeking compensation. Doesn't he have the right to his own religious beliefs without suffering for it?
"To assert that Hall is attempting to "ban Christianity and praying" from the military is ludicrous"
ReplyDeleteIt isn't possible to draw any other conclusion, Nicole. In order to be "sensitive" to the small percentage of athiest students in schools, prayer was BANNED. Now, it is illegal for student athletes to pray before or after their games. The ONE athiest in a school is California sued to stop the words "Under God" from being spoken in the pledge of allegiance, and was nearly successful.
Sorry, Nicole. The athiest lobby in America has already shown its true colors, and has demonstrated its tyranny over people of faith. Why is it that if Christians are unhappy with their children in public schools being taught homosexual norms, abortion, and other ideas anathema to their faith, they are told to take their kids to a private school or educate them at home? But if ONE athiest is uncomfortable in their environment, the entire environment must be scrubbed to suit THEM?
Gee...
ReplyDeleteIf I am at a gathering of people who are of not my faith and they decide have a prayer beforehand I do what my parents taught me to do.
Respect their right to do so and either respectfully excuse myself beforehand or wait silently until they are done.
It isn't that big of a deal except to people who are trying to push their beliefs (or non beliefs) and/or their agenda on everybody else.
The better headline would be "more Jewish attacks against Christianity and the Military"
ReplyDeleteIt's a newsworthy story in that religous freedom IN the military is a constitutional right. The reason the Chaplains Corps exist is so the troops, stationed in foreign countries, in the US, training in the field and deployed to war zones, can exercise their free expression of religion. The military literally forces us to move where they want us and those surroundings may not facilitate our counstitutional right to do so.
ReplyDeleteThat said, the military is neither Christian nor religious. Trust me, I live it every day as an Army wife. The Army simply provides the avenue for us to worship. And some soldiers are Christians but believe me, some are flaming atheists, too.
The real story here in my opinion is the journey this soldier has been through. War leaves unimaginable scars and is more than just a political position. I remember seeing this live as it was airing and said to msyelf, "He's 23. He'll change his mind (and heart) 50 times before he's 40 years old."
The media did take advantage of this story since they won't report substantially of the progress in Iraq but it is a legitimate story. I suspect this soldier will be embarrassed by this some day.
Thanksgiving Dinner combines the divine with the national ethos and is always preceded by Grace. You can't just bow your head and shut-up? How obnoxious to chose this moment to express your souless, ungrateful merde.
ReplyDelete"Respect their right to do so and either respectfully excuse myself beforehand or wait silently until they are done."
ReplyDeleteProblem is Liberal Fascists do not understand 'respectfully'; respect is not a word found in their vocabulary.
They're into 'social justice' which of course, is meaningless nonsense since there is no justice amongst socialists. Their idea of 'social juctice' is banning that which does not obey the Collective; hence Nazis.
Everyone knows that Nazis were only labeled right-wingers in that they were right of Stalin; hence the American Democrat Party.
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"I was told because I can't put my personal beliefs aside and pray with troops I wouldn't make a good leader"
ReplyDeleteYou were told correctly - you wouldn't make a good leader. If I was leading a platoon of Muslims, I would respect their "ignorant ways" and learn how to lead them in worship. Even though I'm a former Christian. The unit is more important that you, you selfish jerk.
This story is b.s. or this soldier is an idiot activist.
ReplyDeleteIf he was truly being discriminated against all he would have to do is go to his EO (Equal Opportunity) NCO or officer.
He doesn't have the right to not be offended.
"In order to be "sensitive" to the small percentage of athiest students in schools, prayer was BANNED."
ReplyDeleteSchool prayer or prayer in school has never been banned. Students, teachers, and administrators are free to pray in school as much as they want.
What cannot be done is for the SCHOOL as an ongan of the government determine when and what to pray, nor force anyone to pray. Neither can the SCHOOL as a government organ deny anyone their prayersIF the prayer does not interfere with the normal teaching day.
Simply, schools as an arm of the government cannot endorse or discredit any reconized religion.
And neither can the military. Last year, a Federal Court determined that Atheism met the criteria to be declared a religion. Military Chaplains are trained to treat with the philosophies of Atheist.
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ReplyDelete"The unit is more important than you, you selfish jerk."
If the Faith of those under your command give them the strength and fortitude to stain their souls with blood and survive the horror of war, make use of it.
Or get used to preparing body bags.
I'll bet you're too selfish to even attend a funeral of one of your fallen, because any invocation of God would "offend" your delicate sensibilities.
If you were in my unit, I'd place you on some sh!tbird detail where you couldn't do any harm. Selfish weasel.
"He also said he missed out on promotions because he is an atheist."
ReplyDeleteNo. You missed out on promotions because you put your atheism before the welfare of your own troops.
*snort*
ReplyDelete"They insisted on being religious around me! I am OFFENDED!"
I've been in the military for 15 years, and I've never run into the problems he describes. I'm open, but not pushy, about the fact I'm not religious or Christian, but I've never felt slighted or pressured about it at all. Maybe he's seeing things that don't exist? Or maybe people just like to wind him up because he's obnoxious?
ReplyDelete"Doesn't religious freedom include the right to have faith, as well as the right not to?"
ReplyDeleteDUH!
That's what the military Chaplains are for, to provide for the Religious needs of the troops. It's always been that way, and MUST remain so, ....
....despite the Commmie's who are currently in the majority in Congress. (What WERE those voters thinking?!)
I've said it before, I'll say it again. I'm not a Christian and I'd rather shoot myself in the foot than become one. Simply because I find the concept of religion to be completely laughable.
ReplyDeleteBUT
I'm pretty sure that, in the field, Christian soldiers are praying together with Jewish soldiers. I wouldn't be surprised if atheist soldiers would actually join such a prayer in the field. Why not? They are a family, a band of brothers. I think Hall is the exception. And I tell you something that this Hall guy should consider for a second: I'm not a Christian, but if I would be in the field with GIs or Marines and they would pray together, I'd join them. I don't have to actually pray with them, but I'd be with them. Because we'd be a team, a family.
Sorry, but I'm beginning to think that Hall is just a whiney bitch. Also, he seems to lack every concept of how to lead, how to be a leader. You lead your men, you are there for them, you are there WITH them. They are YOUR men. Religion has nothing to do with it.
From atheist to atheist: Hall, get off your high horse.
Remember "Idependance Day", the movie? The scene were the father of Goldblum's father starts a prayer and that ex-member of the government's like "I'm not Jewish", reply "Nobody's perfect", and he's still welcomed in?
"The father of Goldblum's CHARACTER", not father. DUH!
ReplyDeleteI'll guarantee this guy is an asshole. Nobody would give him any problems about his beliefs unless he was the one to make a big deal of it in the first place.
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